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One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 11:01 am
by Usual Suspects
I realize that this is expected at this time, but this is just ridiculous. There are many good players on this list, but I feel as though they are trolling us at this point. And yes, I realize that this is the "Basketball" Hall of Fame and not exclusive to the NBA, but still.
Inductees:
Al Attles, Carl Braun, Charles Cooper, Vlade Divac, Bobby Jones, Sidney Moncrief, Jack Sikma, Teresa Weatherspoon, Bill Fitch, and Paul Westphal.
I don't want to go through the entire history of each of those guys, but feel free to randomly choose one to google, and tell me why I'm wrong. I can definitely see a case for a couple of them, but really this is the entire class.
Also, is there a rule that they have to induct a certain number of people every year? Why can't it be like baseball, and some years just a couple people get in?
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 11:06 am
by ElectricMayhem
Ben Wallace should've been here.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 11:12 am
by The_Hater
Usual Suspects wrote:I realize that this is expected at this time, but this is just ridiculous. There are many good players on this list, but I feel as though they are trolling us at this point. And yes, I realize that this is the "Basketball" Hall of Fame and not exclusive to the NBA, but still.
Inductees:
Al Attles, Carl Braun, Charles Cooper, Vlade Divac, Bobby Jones, Sidney Moncrief, Jack Sikma, Teresa Weatherspoon, Bill Fitch, and Paul Westphal.
I don't want to go through the entire history of each of those guys, but feel free to randomly choose one to google, and tell me why I'm wrong. I can definitely see a case for a couple of them, but really this is the entire class.
Also, is there a rule that they have to induct a certain number of people every year? Why can't it be like baseball, and some years just a couple people get in?
Well Sidney Moncrief was about 20 years overdue.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 11:13 am
by lonzo_pelota
Is Kobe eligible for next year
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 11:18 am
by Showdown
Vleyd Daywak is long overdue
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 11:23 am
by Usual Suspects
lonzo_pelota wrote:Is Kobe eligible for next year
I think so, I believe you have to be retired for 4 seasons.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 11:29 am
by Chanel Bomber
ElectricMayhem wrote:Ben Wallace should've been here.
Bill Laimbeer as well. This omission is low-key one of the biggest scandals in NBA history imo.
The fact that Vlade's in the HOF and Laimbeer and Big Ben are not is a damn travesty.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 11:52 am
by The_Hater
Chanel Bomber wrote:ElectricMayhem wrote:Ben Wallace should've been here.
Bill Laimbeer as well. This omission is low-key one of the biggest scandals in NBA history imo.
The fact that Vlade's in the HOF and Laimbeer and Big Ben are not is a damn travesty.
Understand that Vlade is there as an international player. They’ve been very consistent in putting players like Divac in the HoF because it’s not the NBA HOF, it’s the basketball HoF.
While he clearly had an underrated career, I’m not sure I’d put Laimbeer on the top 25 biggest omissions list. I can think of a lot of players I would put in ahead of him including Moncrief and Sikma from this years crop. And while I suspect that Wallace will eventually get in, I don’t ever expect Laimbeer to get in.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 12:04 pm
by SkyHookFTW
No problem with Bobby Jones. He might be the best defender in NBA history.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 12:05 pm
by Chanel Bomber
The_Hater wrote:Chanel Bomber wrote:ElectricMayhem wrote:Ben Wallace should've been here.
Bill Laimbeer as well. This omission is low-key one of the biggest scandals in NBA history imo.
The fact that Vlade's in the HOF and Laimbeer and Big Ben are not is a damn travesty.
Understand that Vlade is there as an international player. They’ve been very consistent in putting players like Divac in the HoF because it’s not the NBA HOF, it’s the basketball HoF.
While he clearly had an underrated career, I’m not sure I’d put Laimbeer on the top 25 biggest omissions list. I can think of a lot of players I would put in ahead of him including Moncrief and Sikma from this years crop. And while I suspect that Wallace will eventually get in, I don’t ever expect Laimbeer to get in.
You make a fine point about international play, and I get it.
But Laimbeer is a cultural icon, one of the most iconic players in NBA history. He was the baddest of the Bad Boys, one of the greatest teams in NBA history. When I think of that team, the first image that comes to mind is Isiah Thomas with Bill Laimbeer staring at the camera. Arguably the first stretch 5 in NBA history, although I may be forgetting someone. A rebounding giant. 4 time All-Star. 2 time champion. His legacy far outweighs his individual accolades. It's a joke he's not in the Hall to me, and obviously the result of basketball politics.
I have no beef with Moncrief and Sikma getting in the Hall after all those years. But neither one of those guys left the mark that Laimbeer left on the league.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 12:10 pm
by The_Hater
SkyHookFTW wrote:No problem with Bobby Jones. He might be the best defender in NBA history.
That seems a tad hyperbolic.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 12:31 pm
by Dajadeed
Usual Suspects wrote:lonzo_pelota wrote:Is Kobe eligible for next year
I think so, I believe you have to be retired for 4 seasons.
Next years will be an all timer with Kobe/Duncan/KG...
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 12:37 pm
by lonzo_pelota
Dajadeed wrote:Usual Suspects wrote:lonzo_pelota wrote:Is Kobe eligible for next year
I think so, I believe you have to be retired for 4 seasons.
Next years will be an all timer with Kobe/Duncan/KG...
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 12:58 pm
by ShazamDaShiznt
Chanel Bomber wrote:ElectricMayhem wrote:Ben Wallace should've been here.
Bill Laimbeer as well. This omission is low-key one of the biggest scandals in NBA history imo.
The fact that Vlade's in the HOF and Laimbeer and Big Ben are not is a damn travesty.
NBA has a hatred for Detroit Pistons. They beat Mike, they beat Shaq with Kobe. It's like they cost NBA more money
probably the most underrated NBA franchise ever. 3 championships yet they are being treated like they nobodies.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 1:02 pm
by SlowPaced
Bobby Jones and Sidney Moncrief were long overdue, Vlade Divac too considering his international achievements.
Ben Wallace still not having made it is a joke.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 1:17 pm
by draftnightsuit
Other than Jack Sikma, this just further proves that they’re letting anybody in the HOF these days.
Chauncey Billups, Ben Wallace, and Rasheed Wallace are all HOFers by these standards.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 1:44 pm
by CumberlandPosey
tarzan finally in.the others...well...why not i guess.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 1:45 pm
by Calvin Klein
Chanel Bomber wrote:ElectricMayhem wrote:Ben Wallace should've been here.
Bill Laimbeer as well. This omission is low-key one of the biggest scandals in NBA history imo.
The fact that Vlade's in the HOF and Laimbeer and Big Ben are not is a damn travesty.
DIdn't Vlade get in because of his FIBA career?
So, they are not comparable.
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 2:41 pm
by kwajo
Jack Sikma was a massive innovator of big men play, he’s a very worthy HOFer
Re: One of the weakest Hall of Fame classes ever
Posted: Sun Sep 8, 2019 3:16 pm
by dacrusha
For many of these players they should open a hall of good and leave the hall of fame to generational talents.
Bill Laimbeer never once made an all-NBA team in his career... how can he be a HOF’er if he wasn’t even a top 20 player of his generation?
He’s basically Charles Oakley with a couple of championships.