If Tom Brady gets a 7th ring this year do you put him above Jordan as the most successful/winning player of the last 30?

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If Tom Brady get's a 7th ring this year do you put him above Jordan?

Yes ranked above Jordan
129
41%
No still below Jordan
184
59%
 
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Re: If Tom Brady gets a 7th ring this year do you put him above Jordan as the most successful/winning player of the last 

Post#281 » by Mirotic12 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:21 pm

Infinite Llamas wrote:I'll say it again. Belichick and Brady are the Pop and Duncan of the NFL. Scattered championships. Top playoff seed every year. Duncan has a pretty decent resume, but nobody is calling him the GOAT, despite him being the cornerstone of some dominant teams. NBA season is a grind and anybody saying it's "easy" to win 16 playoff games is deceiving themselves.


Popovich and Duncan =

9 conference finals appearances
6 NBA Finals appearances
5 NBA championships
best regular season = 67-15

Belichick and Brady =

13 conference finals appearances
9 Super Bowl appearances
6 Super Bowl championships
best regular season = undefeated (16-0)

Belichick and Brady have very easily surpassed what Popovich and Duncan did, and they are still adding more to their run. Popovich and Duncan didn't accomplish anywhere near as much together. So no, they are not the NBA equivalent of Belichick and Brady.

Also, the Patriots didn't win "scattered championships". Yes, the Spurs did, but the Patriots didn't.

The Spurs won NBA championships in 1999, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2014.......so yes, that is scattered, and why the Spurs more meet the sports definition of Juggernaut, rather than dynasty (juggernaut is higher than dynasty anyway).

The Patriots won NFL championships in 2001 (2002 SB), 2003 (2004 SB), 2004 (2005 SB), 2014 (2015 SB), 2016 (2017 SB), 2018 (2019 SB)................winning 3 Super Bowls in 4 years, including a back to back, followed by winning 3 Super Bowls in 5 years, including 4 Super Bowl appearances in 5 years, with 3 straight Super Bowl appearances and winning 2 out of 3.

That's not scattered, that's both a juggernaut (a long term greatness), and a dynasty (a shorter term dominance). The Spurs run under Popovich and Duncan, as great as it was, just simply is not comparable.
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Re: If Tom Brady gets a 7th ring this year do you put him above Jordan as the most successful/winning player of the last 

Post#283 » by Mirotic12 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:39 pm

And the narrative from some here, that all quarterbacks are protected now and don't get hit, and all have it easy, and all the good ones will play well into their 40s..........has already been thoroughly debunked this season.


Andrew Luck, at age 30, had to retire, due to all the damage he had taken from hits and injuries...

Eli Manning deteriorated to where he got benched at age 38.......

Ben Roethlisberger, at age 37, is out for the season with an injury....

Drew Brees, at age 40, already got injured and needed surgery....

Cam Newton, at age 30, is already injured....

Nick Foles, at age 30, is already injured...

Philip Rivers, at age 37, is so far 13th in QBR.

Aaron Rodgers, at age 35, is so far 17th in QBR.
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Re: If Tom Brady gets a 7th ring this year do you put him above Jordan as the most successful/winning player of the last 

Post#284 » by Ito » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:47 pm

2 three peats is impressive but how is Jordan the most successful ball player winning wise he didn’t do much in the 80s just score a bunch of points.. I think LeBron has had a better career overall but Jordan is jordan he’s a bigger brand.. In the NFL is harder to win its difficult to compare but Brady might get the edge if he wins a couple more specially now that he’s older
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