SI's Top 100 NBA Rankings 2020

[Sactowndog]

I know that Bagley and Ayton are young and LaVine has some flaws but I will take them every day of the week over Aminu. Aminu was MIA for nearly all of the Denver series.

The list seems high on plug-in guys like Tucker, Thad, Aminu, Covington who you can put into any system and get results. I think every team needs guys like that, but they may be a bit over represented here.

Booker is in their top 50 and he’s as bad a defender as LaVine and plays on a worse team. Why is he rewarded when he is just as unproven as guys like LaVine and Young?

As heavy stats guys the tend to use development arc to predict future performance. The problem with development arc is you have different coaching philosophies and team positions. So some coaches like Joeger restrict rookies their first year and other coaches are willing to hand over the keys.

So did Fox really suddenly get it, or did the coach finally let him play his game versus dropping the ball into ZBo. Fox as a result made a huge year over year jump. Expect to see the same thing from Bagley who many said outplayed guys on this list in the Olympic camp.

[50CalClips]

Murray is actually 38 (and even that is too low)

Thanks for the assist... funky picture/font.
I'll change that.

[Bigfactsstackz]

Looking at the players we ranked here at the top 29, here are the most noticeable differences :
[Player: our ranking --> SI ranking]
Doncic: 20 --> 30
Oladipo: 29 --> 39
Horford: (probably 30) --> 18
Aldridge: (not top 30) --> 16
Middleton: (probably not top 35) --> 27

Lol at Aldridge not being top 30..


Y’all really don’t watch any type of basketball

Watch your favorite team and pretend to know what you’re talking about

[GeorgeMarcus]

Looking at the players we ranked here at the top 29, here are the most noticeable differences :
[Player: our ranking --> SI ranking]
Doncic: 20 --> 30
Oladipo: 29 --> 39
Horford: (probably 30) --> 18
Aldridge: (not top 30) --> 16
Middleton: (probably not top 35) --> 27

Lol at Aldridge not being top 30..


Y’all really don’t watch any type of basketball

Watch your favorite team and pretend to know what you’re talking about

Eh it’s not that outlandish. He’s not peak (or even prime) Aldridge anymore. Probably somewhere in the 25-30 range for me.

[TheNG]

Looking at the players we ranked here at the top 29, here are the most noticeable differences :
[Player: our ranking --> SI ranking]
Doncic: 20 --> 30
Oladipo: 29 --> 39
Horford: (probably 30) --> 18
Aldridge: (not top 30) --> 16
Middleton: (probably not top 35) --> 27

Lol at Aldridge not being top 30..


Y’all really don’t watch any type of basketball

Watch your favorite team and pretend to know what you’re talking about

What sounds more reasonable - that you overvalue a player of a team you're a fan of, or that more than a hundred voters in this forum missed an amazing player in their ranking?

[JN61]

Giannis 1, Butler 11, Markkanen 76 (if I read right), ... Shameful

Where would you rank those guys?

Giannis probably 3-4. Butler around 15-20 and Markkanen around 35-40. Just few players who stuck out.

[kulaz3000]

Giannis 1, Butler 11, Markkanen 76 (if I read right), ... Shameful

Where would you rank those guys?

Giannis probably 3-4. Butler around 15-20 and Markkanen around 35-40. Just few players who stuck out.

I love Lauri, but he isn't in the top 35-40 just yet. He could by the end of this upcoming season, but he hasn't proven that yet.

[SenZu]

Still too early for Giannis to be above some of those names. He's not nearly as proven and is the most incomplete/raw of the elite players. He's becoming very overrated.

[GeorgeMarcus]

Giannis 1, Butler 11, Markkanen 76 (if I read right), ... Shameful

Where would you rank those guys?

Giannis probably 3-4. Butler around 15-20 and Markkanen around 35-40. Just few players who stuck out.

Butler is better than everyone ranked behind him

[melo4three]

Randle dropped about 30 spots just cause he’s on the Knicks


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[LloydFree]

Too High: Jimmy Butler
Too low: Blake Griffin
Too High: CJ McCollum
Too Low: Victor Oladipo
Too High: JJ Redick
Too Low: Robert Covington
Too High: Ricky Rubio
Too Low: Josh Richardson

Obscenely High to the point of it has to be a joke: Kristaps Porzingis

[mattao313]

Is Al Horford really a top 20 player? Seems quite high.

[iggymcfrack]

Looking at the players we ranked here at the top 29, here are the most noticeable differences :
[Player: our ranking --> SI ranking]
Doncic: 20 --> 30
Oladipo: 29 --> 39
Horford: (probably 30) --> 18
Aldridge: (not top 30) --> 16
Middleton: (probably not top 35) --> 27

Lol at Aldridge not being top 30..


Y’all really don’t watch any type of basketball

Watch your favorite team and pretend to know what you’re talking about

On/off since coming to the Spurs:

2015/16: +0.1
2016/17: -5.0
2017/18: +6.7
2018/19: -1.8

That’s four years of having a neutral impact and he just turned 34 years old. It’s crazy to expect him to be a top 30 player in the coming season, let alone top 20. He just gets propped up because people want to give some player credit for the Spurs success when they’re really a well-balanced team that wins games based off of coaching and their bench. I’d definitely rather have Trezz, Covington, Porter, Gallo, Vucevic, or Love next year than Aldridge among players who were ranked outside the top 30.

[Sactowndog]

Love this quote....

Fox is, apparently, precocious—as you might guess from his leap outside the Top 100 all the way to 33. Some fairly advanced maneuvers found their way into his game early in his second season, providing exciting new means for a player who was already too quick for many opponents.

Of course, what he could have said....

We were clueless and massively underrated how much Dave Joeger limits his rookies. The result may or may be good for their development but it absolutely destroys the growth curves we use in our development models. As a result, our analytics models jumped Fox from not ranked to 33. One of the biggest jumps of a player previously ranked.

What is amazing is the same thing will happen again if the supposed “experts” were paying any attention. WCS limited Bagley at least as much as ZBo limited Fox. Bagley offensively took advantage of many players in the Olympic camp on this list. If you look at his per 36 he sits right there with Young and Luka.

Per 36
Bagley 21.2 ppg 10.8 boards. On 16.2 attempts
Young. 22.3 ppg. 9.4 assists. On 18.1 attempts
Doncic. 23.7 ppg. 8.7 boards. On 18.4 attempts

Too 100 Rank.
Bagley NR
Young. 62
Luka. 30

[azcatz11]

Looking at the players we ranked here at the top 29, here are the most noticeable differences :
[Player: our ranking --> SI ranking]
Doncic: 20 --> 30
Oladipo: 29 --> 39
Horford: (probably 30) --> 18
Aldridge: (not top 30) --> 16
Middleton: (probably not top 35) --> 27

Lol at Aldridge not being top 30..


Y’all really don’t watch any type of basketball

Watch your favorite team and pretend to know what you’re talking about

[gh123]

That's all bs, watch Luka carry

[SactoKingsFan]

As a Kings fan I wish Harrison Barnes was around top 75 player but he doesn't belong on the list based on past performance.

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[SactoKingsFan]

Randle dropped about 30 spots just cause he’s on the Knicks


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Putting Randle in the same neighborhood as Nurkic and Harrell seems pretty generous.

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[GeorgeMarcus]

Love this quote....

Fox is, apparently, precocious—as you might guess from his leap outside the Top 100 all the way to 33. Some fairly advanced maneuvers found their way into his game early in his second season, providing exciting new means for a player who was already too quick for many opponents.

Of course, what he could have said....

We were clueless and massively underrated how much Dave Joeger limits his rookies. The result may or may be good for their development but it absolutely destroys the growth curves we use in our development models. As a result, our analytics models jumped Fox from not ranked to 33. One of the biggest jumps of a player previously ranked.

What is amazing is the same thing will happen again if the supposed “experts” were paying any attention. WCS limited Bagley at least as much as ZBo limited Fox. Bagley offensively took advantage of many players in the Olympic camp on this list. If you look at his per 36 he sits right there with Young and Luka.

Per 36
Bagley 21.2 ppg 10.8 boards. On 16.2 attempts
Young. 22.3 ppg. 9.4 assists. On 18.1 attempts
Doncic. 23.7 ppg. 8.7 boards. On 18.4 attempts

Too 100 Rank.
Bagley NR
Young. 62
Luka. 30

I don’t really understand this line of thinking. You blame Joerger for limiting Fox’s development, but how do you know easing him in wasn’t conducive to his development? Joeger was still the coach when Fox exploded this year.

As for Bagley, I have little doubt he will put up numbers this year. What I and other question is whether he can have a positive impact on his team’s success. He will have to improve defensively and at playing within the flow of the offense to make that happen. He may wind up firmly in the top 100, but after lasts season it’s hard to justify ranking him that high.

[dantheman74]

#11 Jimmy Butler over #12 Westbrook?.
Aldridge at#16. #18 Horford above #19 Blake Griffin? (imo should be Blake/LA/Horford, and not at these digits)
Siakim at #24. Really?? He had a great playoff run but lets see what he can do this season as the main man before making him top 25.
I know it's hard to make the lists but it seems SI are trying to please every fanbase.