Who is to be blamed for USA failure in FIBA world cup?

Mos_Heat · Post #41 » by **Mos_Heat** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:39 pm

DimesandKnicks wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:13 Draft - best player Giannis, Greece
14 Draft - best player Embiid, Cameroon
15 Draft - best player KAT, Dominican Republic
16 Draft - best player Simmons, Australia
17 Draft - best player Mitchell
18 Draft - best player Doncic, Slovenia

Not a lot of top level talent from US in recent years

Yall kill me with this KAT is from DR ****

Meh, formally I'm right

The Rodzilla · Post #42 » by **The Rodzilla** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:42 pm

delly is to blame, players like curry were too scared to come and compete against him so that's why usa was so weakened

Zespetjest · Post #43 » by **Zespetjest** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:43 pm

Those who voted “no one cares...”, you do, otherwise you wouldn’t be in this thread.

freethedevil · Post #44 » by **freethedevil** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:45 pm

Swish1906 wrote:The players they sent simply arent that good...

It was still pretty unquestionably the most talented roster in the tournament.

Nikson · Post #45 » by **Nikson** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:47 pm

freethedevil wrote:
Swish1906 wrote:The players they sent simply arent that good...

It was still pretty unquestionably the most talented roster in the tournament.

Probably. In 1 on 1 game.

Post #46 » by **THE J0KER** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:47 pm

ZemGOAT wrote:Rudy Gobert

Coaches which used NBA players way too different than their role is in NBA make big mistakes. Jokic as forward and Middleton as center are bad ideas.

Using a small-ball option as plan-A USA Afroamericans even clearly outrebounded their taller opponents, thanks to great athleticism, speed, and competitive NBA experience. But it is obvious that the only team in China aginst it will not works so well is physically superior French team with DPOY center Gobert which will not give you cheap rebounds, but the USA still insists on small-ball strategy. That said, if Kemba was less terrible today and/or Tatum was healthy, I see a different outcome for this match.

But for Americans, this is actually a great result for their chances to win Olympic Gold in Tokyo 2020, because after this disaster I guess at least starting five at OG will be all-star level players and more than 3 preparation games before the tournament. The biggest mistake would be to mock in disgrace players which sacrifice this summer to play for National Team.

oceanlife · Post #47 » by **oceanlife** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:47 pm

America would likely win if we ran our best players but we were still the most talented squad. If we have to throw one person under the bus then the blame for this rests on Coach Pop. His quote from a week ago was "No one wins forever", this kind of mindset trickles down to the players.

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NoDopeOnSundays · Post #48 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:49 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
DimesandKnicks wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:13 Draft - best player Giannis, Greece
14 Draft - best player Embiid, Cameroon
15 Draft - best player KAT, Dominican Republic
16 Draft - best player Simmons, Australia
17 Draft - best player Mitchell
18 Draft - best player Doncic, Slovenia

Not a lot of top level talent from US in recent years

Yall kill me with this KAT is from DR ****

Meh, formally I'm right

KAT isn't from DR, he plays for them but that dude is from New Jersey :lol:

He can't even speak Spanish. I agree that a lot of the young elite talent is from outside the US though, the biggest problem for the US moving forward is the lack of quality centers coming from here.

ProcessMeUpFam · Post #49 » by **ProcessMeUpFam** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:51 pm

US basketball won't ever be the same. There's too much money in NBA deals and these athletes probably don't have the highest sense of nationalism. If NBA guys even think close to how some NFL guys think, why would you risk 100 million to "honor your country"?

TheNG · Post #50 » by **TheNG** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:51 pm

It seems that unlike players like Giannis, Jokic and Gobert that are are willing to play for their country, guys like LeBron, Kawhi, Curry, AD and Harden are not proud enough to play for their country.
What a fake leaders/role models.

DimesandKnicks · Post #51 » by **DimesandKnicks** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:52 pm

Mos_Heat wrote:
DimesandKnicks wrote:
Mos_Heat wrote:13 Draft - best player Giannis, Greece
14 Draft - best player Embiid, Cameroon
15 Draft - best player KAT, Dominican Republic
16 Draft - best player Simmons, Australia
17 Draft - best player Mitchell
18 Draft - best player Doncic, Slovenia

Not a lot of top level talent from US in recent years

Yall kill me with this KAT is from DR ****

Meh, formally I'm right

DR has nothing to do with his development as a basketball player.

DWadeno3 · Post #52 » by **DWadeno3** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:54 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:That's what is likely to happen when you send your 6th best team (if we are generous). Sure, there is still plenty of talent on it, but the core players of teams like France have played together for years and have a massive advantage in terms of team cohesion and understanding.

This pretty much.

Noctilux · Post #53 » by **Noctilux** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:55 pm

Kuzma’s injury :lol:

SkyHook · Post #54 » by **SkyHook** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:00 pm

Read on Twitter

Merc85 · Post #55 » by **Merc85** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:05 pm

Looks like they could have used some Carmelo out there huh?

Sedale Threatt · Post #56 » by **Sedale Threatt** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:06 pm

ProcessMeUpFam wrote:US basketball won't ever be the same. There's too much money in NBA deals and these athletes probably don't have the highest sense of nationalism. If NBA guys even think close to how some NFL guys think, why would you risk 100 million to "honor your country"?

They’re never going to have any problem getting top-tier guys to play in the Olympics. Right or wrong, that’s always going to be the No. 1 priority among our players. The pride and prestige just isn’t there for the World Cup, as evidenced by how many players blew off invitations and the fact none of these games were even televised.

Karate Diop · Post #57 » by **Karate Diop** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:07 pm

Kemba and Smart playing keep away from Mitchell is the primary reason Team USA lost... Talk about being selfish...

Dzon Dilindzer · Post #58 » by **Dzon Dilindzer** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:08 pm

you can blame superstars for not going to the world cup, but its not their fault usa didnt won the tournament

all players in the roster are nba players and even without the superstars, they are the most quality team... not a single team other than the usa, have all their players playing in the best league in the world... missing their best players is not the reason they lost!

LloydFree · Post #59 » by **LloydFree** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:14 pm

kenwood3333 wrote:
Swish1906 wrote:The players they sent simply arent that good...

The players willing to participate simply aren't that good

Celtics. Tee hee....

homecourtloss · Post #60 » by **homecourtloss** » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:14 pm

Mostly Popovich. Yeah, you have meh motivated D/E team out here, but a coach who plays modern ball would be much better (Atkinson, Budenholzer) because you’d get a coach who was actively getting his team to shoot threes and even on this team, there were plenty who could.