Adopt the FIBA rules (Poll Added)

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Should the NBA adopt FIBA's rules to improve D and showcase athletic shotblockers and shooting bigs?

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Adopt the FIBA rules (Poll Added) 

Post#1 » by CoachD » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:20 pm

I saw someone post this on Facebook, and I full co-sign on this idea.

The NBA needs to adopt the FIBA defensive rules.

No defensive 3 or (2.9 as NBA coaches and players refer to it) should be a must. Stop punishing shot blockers for eating up space and being big. If you want them out of the key, move them the old fashioned way... by putting them in P&R actions or running sets or having big bodies throw screens at them.

The goaltend rule and the physicality in the key should also be adopted. I'd much rather see tough physical play rather than this "don't touch me" crap that we currently have. I'm not just talking about the jockeying for position under the rim. That is STILL a physical war in the NBA that is virtually never called. A streaking ball handler coming through the lane however will almost always draw a foul when the opposing big even waves at them.

The bigs are so nerfed in the NBA it's ridiculous. They don't even have their own All Star position, yet the skillset of a center is so different.
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Post#2 » by Mirotic12 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:35 pm

The NBA should absolutely adopt those rules you mentioned. But the NBA is obviously only concerned with making tall freak athletes look like great basketball players - whether they can even dribble or shoot, or have any scoring moves or not, is irrelevant. And also just concerned with making guys stars if they can simply shoot 3 pointers, whether or not they could actually compete with real physical play and defense is also irrelevant to what the NBA wants.

Giannis Antetokounmpo was the NBA's MVP, and he looked absolutely awful the entire tournament, whenever he had to go against a set defense in the half court. But the NBA rules and reffing made him look like Superman up until game 3 of the eastern conference finals. It's a joke, it really is.

But the NBA's marketing gimmicks want it that way. They can just create any story line they want, as long as they have these rules and reffing criteria, which makes the NBA something like a 50/50 combination of competitive sports and the WWE. They don't want an actual real sporting competition, like say the FIBA World Cup.
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Re: Adopt the FIBA rules 

Post#3 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:39 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:The NBA should absolutely adopt those rules you mentioned. But the NBA is obviously only concerned with making tall freak athletes look like great basketball players - whether they can even dribble or shoot, or have any scoring moves or not, is irrelevant. And also just concerned with making guys stars if they can simply shoot 3 pointers, whether or not they could actually compete with real physical play and defense is also irrelevant to what the NBA wants.

Giannis Antetokounmpo was the NBA's MVP, and he looked absolutely awful the entire tournament, whenever he had to go against a set defense in the half court. But the NBA rules and reffing made him look like Superman up until game 3 of the eastern conference finals. It's a joke, it really is.

But the NBA's marketing gimmicks want it that way. They can just create any story line they want, as long as they have these rules and reffing criteria, which makes the NBA something like a 50/50 combination of competitive sports and the WWE. They don't want an actual real sporting competition, like say the FIBA World Cup.

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Post#4 » by CoachD » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:40 pm

For a league that LOVES 3s so much.... removing the 2.9 rule would likely lead to more 3s, and more jump shooting centers to try and pull defensive centers away from the rim.

I have no issue with that.... but the soft crap we are being served needs to be fixed
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Post#5 » by dhsilv2 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:43 pm

God no...
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Post#6 » by CoachD » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:45 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:God no...



Thanks for your contribution to the discussion. Care to explain?
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Post#7 » by UcanUwill » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:45 pm

There are few FIBA rules I love. THe fact you cant call time out when balls in play, and assists counting rules.
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Post#8 » by dhsilv2 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:47 pm

CoachD wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:God no...



Thanks for your contribution to the discussion. Care to explain?


FIBA's rules make for a less enjoyable game. The last thing we really need is more post play. And the very idea of even having positions in the allstar game is beyond dated. Bringing back the CENTER to the allstar game? Get out of here!
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Post#9 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:49 pm

I agree... I prefer the more physical style than the weak NBA rules has going on.
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Post#10 » by koningcosmo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:51 pm

nah there is a reason NBA is more fun to watch then FIBA. it can be boring seeing a 60-80 game. Only thing i like to see is the unwritten rule in FIBA that if both players are playing physical its allowed, as long as it isnt getting to crazy, obvious pushing shoving etc. it can bring those 1v1 superstar matchups back were they go down on each other, now people switch so fast because you otherwise get blown by or the foul.
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Post#11 » by Zeno » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:53 pm

I actually like the idea of having a slightly different set of rules for the two conferences. Maybe East plays FIBA and West play current NBA rules and when the two conferences play, they play with the home conferences rules like in MLB. It would deepen the talent pool available and be a way to level the conferences plus add to intrigue come the finals.
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Post#12 » by homecourtloss » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:56 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:Giannis Antetokounmpo was the NBA's MVP, and he looked absolutely awful the entire tournament, whenever he had to go against a set defense in the half court. But the NBA rules and reffing made him look like Superman up until game 3 of the eastern conference finals. It's a joke, it really is.

But the NBA's marketing gimmicks want it that way. They can just create any story line they want, as long as they have these rules and reffing criteria, which makes the NBA something like a 50/50 combination of competitive sports and the WWE. They don't want an actual real sporting competition, like say the FIBA World Cup.


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Post#13 » by Forte IV » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:57 pm

The ball on the rim rule is dumb. Imagine if a 76er was allowed to tip Kawhi's shot off the rim. I hate it. Everything else I agree with.
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Post#14 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:57 pm

The Sixers win the next 3 titles if they played with FIba rules, a frontcourt of Al Horford and Embiid in a matchup zone where Embiid can stand in the paint all game would lead to some horrific scores.
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Post#15 » by Mirotic12 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:58 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:FIBA's rules make for a less enjoyable game. The last thing we really need is more post play. And the very idea of even having positions in the allstar game is beyond dated. Bringing back the CENTER to the allstar game? Get out of here!


The NBA's rules and reffing have made it an extremely soft league. It's like pansies playing basketball. Just about every single decent professional basketball league in the world is much more physical than the NBA, and doesn't allow endless wide open dunks and layups like the NBA does with the defensive 3 seconds rule.

Look at any other decent pro basketball league, and the refs allow physical contact and the players to play, the NBA on the other hand mainly only allows physical contact if an offensive player is piling his way into the defenders, or lowering his shoulder to knock defenders over.

The scary thing about that is, this NBA way of controlling how good players are though reffing, is starting to creep into FIBA, with how in the Greece - New Zealand game, the refs kept giving Giannis drawn fouls for him bowling into the defense - something only seen in the NBA, and not in any other league or competition. In several of the recent FIBA tournaments, the refs were also making it so that defenders couldn't even touch Pau Gasol - something we never saw before in FIBA.

Slowly but surely, this NBA methodology of making games a foul drawing contest (James Harden, Dywane Wade, and so forth), and all about "creating stars", is going to taint worldwide basketball, if it isn't reversed.
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Post#16 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:00 pm

koningcosmo wrote:nah there is a reason NBA is more fun to watch then FIBA.

yeah, better players
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Post#17 » by queridiculo » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:08 pm

FIBA is trash basketball to me, sorry. You can keep those rules, or watch college basketball if you're so inclined.
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Post#18 » by CoachD » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:09 pm

koningcosmo wrote:nah there is a reason NBA is more fun to watch then FIBA. it can be boring seeing a 60-80 game. Only thing i like to see is the unwritten rule in FIBA that if both players are playing physical its allowed, as long as it isnt getting to crazy, obvious pushing shoving etc. it can bring those 1v1 superstar matchups back were they go down on each other, now people switch so fast because you otherwise get blown by or the foul.


The only reason the NBA is "more fun" is because of the names on the back of the shirts. Put the best talent in the world in the #1 league with FIBA rules, and you have a better game where buckets are no longer meaningless and guys cant simply walk to the rim at will
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Re: Adopt the FIBA rules 

Post#19 » by CoachD » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:10 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The Sixers win the next 3 titles if they played with FIba rules, a frontcourt of Al Horford and Embiid in a matchup zone where Embiid can stand in the paint all game would lead to some horrific scores.



Disagree.

Brilliant coaches like Stevens, Bud and Nurse would run complex zone offenses and find backdoor layups over and over again
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Post#20 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:14 pm

CoachD wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:The Sixers win the next 3 titles if they played with FIba rules, a frontcourt of Al Horford and Embiid in a matchup zone where Embiid can stand in the paint all game would lead to some horrific scores.



Disagree.

Brilliant coaches like Stevens, Bud and Nurse would run complex zone offenses and find backdoor layups over and over again



Stevens? His offense is pretty crude, and the current Celtics don't have the passers to pull that kind of thing off.

Bud & Nurse, sure if they had the personnel for it, but as constructed neither team is really built to beat a matchup zone that has Embiid in the middle just guarding space. The Jazz would be monsters as well just because Gobert wouldn't have to get out and guard in space.

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