Clay Davis wrote:To Pimp A Butterfly was good but too experimental to be widely considered as the GOAT. Saying this as a huge fan of jazz and Thundercat in particularfreethedevil wrote:E-Balla wrote:
What would you call an album where nearly every verse and every beat is iconic? Can you say that about any album other than Illmatic?
Song 1: NY State Of Mind has a classic beat, opens the song with iconic bars, ends the first verse with "sleep is the cousin of death", second verse has "I ain't the type of brother made for you to start testing, gimme a Smith and Wesson I'll have **** undressing."
Song 2: Life's a Bitch has a classic beat, AZ opens with what is arguably the best guest verse ever, and Nas follows with another iconic verse from the start (I woke up early on my born day...) to the end (that buck that brought the bottle could've struck the lotto).
Song 3: The World Is Yours has a classic beat, the first verse is one of the most iconic ever with damn near every bar being iconic, 2 of them being so iconic they were turned into hit songs, verse 2 opens with the iconic "God bless your life", verse 3 inspired the name for Will Smith's first solo album.
Song 4: Halftime has an iconic beat, even the intro is iconic (Nasty Nas in ya area, bout to cause mass hysteria), verse 2 and 3 of this song is the first verses on the album that aren't undeniably iconic as great as they are (I mean this was the first single).
No basketball player since george mikan has influenced the game like mikan has. Therefore he is the undisputed goat. No, see you've **** the analogy. Jordan was nowhere close to the most influential basketball player. He is/was
the most popular. That's where your analogy falls to shreds. TPAB is vastly more popular than illmatic is. Illmatic is mikan to TPAB's Jordan. TPAB, better or worse, has received far more acclaim and attention from general music audiences than any hip hop track proceeding it. Illmatic is seen as one of the greatest hip hop albums ever, TPAB is seen as one of the greatest music albums ever.
Lets see, even if we just ignore analysis of the album itself, like you do, TPAB is:
-> One of the most popular music albums ever
-> One of the most highly rated music albums ever
-> Widely argued for as the GOAT hip hop album
-> Is widely considered the peak of a rapper who is widely anticipated to take jay's z mantle as the greatest
I suppose i should expect this from e "lebron has no logical case for goat" baller, 90's fanboyism at it's finest.
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Exclusively to hip hop fans? I guess. But if we're talking in general, it probably has an edge compared to other tracks based on how mainstream hip hop has become and the rep of who made it. Damn basically road TPAB's coattails to a pulitzer