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Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:43 pm
by boomershadow
Billy Goat wrote:They have the offseason to sleep. This entire premise is cringey and out of touch.
Sleep isn't something you can save up for three months and use later on. And it is absolutely something that affects a person's mental and physical performance.
Now, we probably aren't talking about something on the level of Dennis Rodman gambling all night in Vegas and then showing up to the Finals with no sleep, but it has an effect.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:44 pm
by LofJ
Coby_Brian wrote:Kawhi Leonard - DNP (sleeping)
But more seriously, the league really should cut back on traveling but reducing inter-conference games to help address this issue. Do that and when the league inevitably expands to give Seattle and another city a team move Minnesota into the Eastern conference. They travel more than any other team and it's a huge competitive disadvantage for them, they are likely the most sleep deprived team in the NBA.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:53 pm
by Billy Goat
dhsilv2 wrote:Billy Goat wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:
Yeah, they should stop working out during the season too. I mean that's what the off season is for. Hell why even eat? Do that in the off season. Shoot why do they even bother with breathing? Just do it in the off season.
Don't roll your eyes at me. You made an absurd comment.
The idea that lack of sleep for professional athletes, who are pampered beyond our wildest dreams, is going to resonate with the fans is whats absurd. That's all.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:53 pm
by And1+2
Sleep deprivation is an issue because the majority of NBA players (and other professional athletes, including Olympians) are taking Adderall or other ADHD medication. Not illegally, mind you. They all have prescriptions and they all have permission/exceptions.
Try taking a stimulant before going to the gym in the evening, see how well you sleep when you get home.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:56 pm
by dhsilv2
Billy Goat wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:Billy Goat wrote:
Don't roll your eyes at me. You made an absurd comment.
The idea that lack of sleep for professional athletes, who are pampered beyond our wildest dreams, is going to resonate with the fans is whats absurd. That's all.
I would assume fans understand circadian rhythm and understand what travel and working at night does to the human body. I don't assume fans are complete morons who this wouldn't resonate extremely well with. We are not designed to be at peak athletic performance at night and our bodies take the lead from the sun on when to sleep. Travel plus working at night absolutely runs people down and everyone should know this. This article just brings out that the league is looking more into something everyone should know is a serious issue for the health of these players.
If you weren't aware of how important sleep is and how bad travel and working at night are for you, you might want to read into it.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:00 pm
by KqWIN
I can’t speak for other culture, but sleep deprivation is an American, workaholic issue. There’s no doubt it affects NBA players and coaches who are constantly traveling and face a lot of stress in their lives.
As someone else mentioned, no one would bat an eye if every player was suffering from some other issue that was affecting their physical health. Sleep is important and hardly anyone gets enough in this country.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:07 pm
by dhsilv2
KqWIN wrote:I can’t speak for other culture, but sleep deprivation is an American, workaholic issue. There’s no doubt it affects NBA players and coaches who are constantly traveling and face a lot of stress in their lives.
As someone else mentioned, no one would bat an eye if every player was suffering from some other issue that was affecting their physical health. Sleep is important and hardly anyone gets enough in this country.
Completely untrue that this is an american issue or a workaholic issue (as if that's exclusive to americans). Just the amount of artificial light in modern society has wreaked havoc on natural sleep patterns of everyone in the developed world. Everyone having a computer/smart phone again just continues to compound the problem.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:12 pm
by KqWIN
dhsilv2 wrote:KqWIN wrote:I can’t speak for other culture, but sleep deprivation is an American, workaholic issue. There’s no doubt it affects NBA players and coaches who are constantly traveling and face a lot of stress in their lives.
As someone else mentioned, no one would bat an eye if every player was suffering from some other issue that was affecting their physical health. Sleep is important and hardly anyone gets enough in this country.
Completely untrue that this is an american issue or a workaholic issue (as if that's exclusive to americans). Just the amount of artificial light in modern society has wreaked havoc on natural sleep patterns of everyone in the developed world. Everyone having a computer/smart phone again just continues to compound the problem.
I specifically stated that I can’t speak for other cultures. I know this is an American problem because I am an American and have read about it. I am not going say it’s a worldwide problem when I don’t know and haven’t educated myself on that.
I am also studied on workaholism, which is an issue in America and one of many issues within American culture and society that lead to sleep deprivation.
Certainly this is not “completely untrue”.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:40 pm
by dhsilv2
KqWIN wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:KqWIN wrote:I can’t speak for other culture, but sleep deprivation is an American, workaholic issue. There’s no doubt it affects NBA players and coaches who are constantly traveling and face a lot of stress in their lives.
As someone else mentioned, no one would bat an eye if every player was suffering from some other issue that was affecting their physical health. Sleep is important and hardly anyone gets enough in this country.
Completely untrue that this is an american issue or a workaholic issue (as if that's exclusive to americans). Just the amount of artificial light in modern society has wreaked havoc on natural sleep patterns of everyone in the developed world. Everyone having a computer/smart phone again just continues to compound the problem.
I specifically stated that I can’t speak for other cultures. I know this is an American problem because I am an American and have read about it. I am not going say it’s a worldwide problem when I don’t know and haven’t educated myself on that.
I am also studied on workaholism, which is an issue in America and one of many issues within American culture and society that lead to sleep deprivation.
Certainly this is not “completely untrue”.
I missed your first line. Apologies.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:56 pm
by NPZ
IAMZOOTED2 wrote:My heart is bleeding for these athletes. They work themselves to the bone for us... some even hold down two jobs and a side hustle. And for what? To play a game? The shame of it all. They must be exhausted!
Strong.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:59 pm
by NPZ
And1+2 wrote:Sleep deprivation is an issue because the majority of NBA players (and other professional athletes, including Olympians) are taking Adderall or other ADHD medication. Not illegally, mind you. They all have prescriptions and they all have permission/exceptions.
Try taking a stimulant before going to the gym in the evening, see how well you sleep when you get home.
Taking them just to work out is definitely stupid, but their effect on sleep wears off after about 2 wks of regular use. And they are also supposed to be taken when you wake up for a reason.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:17 pm
by JellosJigglin
The average road trip in the NBA can't be more than a week or so. I know some teams have exceptions due to scheduling, like the Lakers' annual Grammy road trip, or cross country trips, but that's not a regular thing. These guys fly in luxury jets with seats that recline flat, stay in 5-star hotels, and then they're back in their own beds. If sleep deprivation is an issue its cause is more likely behavioral. That's easy to fix. You'd be amazed how quickly this issue would be fixed if players stopped going on social media for a week. They have IG thots in every city in America. Of course they're exhausted.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:55 pm
by so_bored
Are we fans supposed to feel bad for these multi millionaire athletes because they are sleep deprived? Let me check my sleep schedule.....
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:05 pm
by And1+2
NPZ wrote:And1+2 wrote:Sleep deprivation is an issue because the majority of NBA players (and other professional athletes, including Olympians) are taking Adderall or other ADHD medication. Not illegally, mind you. They all have prescriptions and they all have permission/exceptions.
Try taking a stimulant before going to the gym in the evening, see how well you sleep when you get home.
Taking them just to work out is definitely stupid, but their effect on sleep wears off after about 2 wks of regular use. And they are also supposed to be taken when you wake up for a reason.
Yeah, obviously. But if you're a professional athlete with an Addy prescription I bet you're taking it before a game and not when you wake up.
Also, I disagree with that the effect on sleep wears off after regular use. I've been taking ADHD meds for about 10 years. If I miss taking it in the morning and take it mid-morning, say 10:00am, I am going to be up wired until 2:00 at the earliest. Usually I'm asleep by 11... But even then I can find it difficult at times.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:25 pm
by Pan Jia Yuan
IAMZOOTED2 wrote:My heart is bleeding for these athletes. They work themselves to the bone for us... some even hold down two jobs and a side hustle. And for what? To play a game? The shame of it all. They must be exhausted!
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:27 pm
by xxSnEaKyPxx
I'm sure with their travel schedule and stuff, its not an easy thing for them, but this isn't some major issue either.
Have ya'll ever listened to Jalen's podcast before? He's talked a lot about how players are out partying all the time and what not. Now, is every player doing this? No, probably not, but I doubt the ones sleeping are complaining about lack of rest either.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:51 pm
by NPZ
And1+2 wrote:NPZ wrote:And1+2 wrote:Sleep deprivation is an issue because the majority of NBA players (and other professional athletes, including Olympians) are taking Adderall or other ADHD medication. Not illegally, mind you. They all have prescriptions and they all have permission/exceptions.
Try taking a stimulant before going to the gym in the evening, see how well you sleep when you get home.
Taking them just to work out is definitely stupid, but their effect on sleep wears off after about 2 wks of regular use. And they are also supposed to be taken when you wake up for a reason.
Yeah, obviously. But if you're a professional athlete with an Addy prescription I bet you're taking it before a game and not when you wake up.
Also, I disagree with that the effect on sleep wears off after regular use. I've been taking ADHD meds for about 10 years. If I miss taking it in the morning and take it mid-morning, say 10:00am, I am going to be up wired until 2:00 at the earliest. Usually I'm asleep by 11... But even then I can find it difficult at times.
Did your teeth clench/grind like a mofo on Addies? That's almost as bad as the sleep.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:37 pm
by And1+2
NPZ wrote:And1+2 wrote:NPZ wrote:
Taking them just to work out is definitely stupid, but their effect on sleep wears off after about 2 wks of regular use. And they are also supposed to be taken when you wake up for a reason.
Yeah, obviously. But if you're a professional athlete with an Addy prescription I bet you're taking it before a game and not when you wake up.
Also, I disagree with that the effect on sleep wears off after regular use. I've been taking ADHD meds for about 10 years. If I miss taking it in the morning and take it mid-morning, say 10:00am, I am going to be up wired until 2:00 at the earliest. Usually I'm asleep by 11... But even then I can find it difficult at times.
Did your teeth clench/grind like a mofo on Addies? That's almost as bad as the sleep.
I'm on a low enough dose that I don't do any teeth grinding, thankfully. My teeth are actually perfect for my age. I am 35 without a cavity or blemish... Unsure if that's normal or not, but most of my friends have at least a couple fillings.
Re: sleep deprivation a problem in the NBA?
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:20 am
by dk1115
Sleep cycles of an NBA player + travelling between time zones... that circadian rhythm must be way off man.