Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern?

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Should Luka fans worry about his shot selection?

Yes, it's pretty bad at times.
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Re: Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern? 

Post#41 » by Crives » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:05 am

Cavsfansince84 wrote:It actually was surprisingly great up until about the last two months of last season when I think physically he just wore out. His 3 pt % dropped from about 38% to 33% over the last 20 games or so and his fg% probably dropped a similar amount. If he is better prepared physically for the 80 game grind this season I expect his ts% to be close to 60%. Preseason means nothing.


Look at the FT% though... lol ends up at 90% in April... but terrible in Oct/Dec/Jan/Feb/March..
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Re: Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern? 

Post#42 » by Alfred » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:18 am

3toheadmelo wrote:I am concerned about his efficiency and shot selection. Chucks up too many bad shots. He looks even worse this preseason, 41.5% FG. That’s awful.


Stop using FG% to talk about players who take 5+ threes a game! End the madness!
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Re: Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern? 

Post#43 » by guille_4 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:48 am

leolozon wrote:
Crives wrote:I don’t understand how Luka can hit step back 3’s but only shoots 71% from the FT line.


He didn't shoot 71% in Europe. It's clearly mental. He went through a bad stretch and had trouble getting out of it. It SHOULD get better.


I think it also has a bit to do with his stamina.

I hope he's back at his 78-80% rate.l this season.
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Re: Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern? 

Post#44 » by LakersLegacy » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:38 am

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The_Hater wrote:
LakersLegacy wrote:If Luca spends the next 24 months developing his arsenal. Learning to make play-off shots. Then he will have a much better career.


What does this even mean? :-?


That basketball outside of the US doesnt exist for him...


For example, LeBron use to be a much more efficient scorer. He just didn’t take shots he wasn’t comfortable with. But ultimately it made LeBron easier to game plan for. Only after LeBron developed a deeper arsenal of play-off shots did he break through to win championships.

In the play-offs opponents prepare better defenses. And make adjustments that are not made in the regular season because it’s a 7 game series.

Eventually most players hit this wall. Then through a series of rounding out their games break through it.

Best to just give Luca a green light to use the next 24 months to develop as much as he can. And then be able to use the best strategy in the play-offs based on the opponent. Than to just be a specialist at what he is already good at. Luca is that talented. I wouldn’t give many players the green light.

In summary strengthen his weaknesses.

And to take it even further I think Luca should identify 24 skills/moves to maximize his potential. And master them at the rate of 1 per month.
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Post#45 » by The_Hater » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:40 am

LakersLegacy wrote:
Swish1906 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
What does this even mean? :-?


That basketball outside of the US doesnt exist for him...
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In summary strengthen his weaknesses. .


Then you should have just said this.
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Post#46 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:40 am

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Re: Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern? 

Post#47 » by LakersLegacy » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:30 am

The_Hater wrote:
LakersLegacy wrote:
Swish1906 wrote:
That basketball outside of the US doesnt exist for him...
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In summary strengthen his weaknesses. .


Then you should have just said this.


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Post#48 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:54 am

leolozon wrote:He has a good stroke. Shot selection is sometime a problem. Happy that his FTs seems to be back for the past 2 games. He has to shoot at least 80% for the FTs. He's at 10.7 FTs per game in 26MPG so far in the preseason. His ability to get to the FT line should be Harden like (for better or worst).

It's only his 2nd year, if he can get to .560-.570 TS% with the type of shots he takes, it will be great.


IF he doesn't do mobsters come to his house and kill his parents? Is his team automaticly missing the playoffs? Does he automaticly fall out of contention to become a HOF player?
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Re: Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern? 

Post#49 » by tribulations » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:04 am

Jadoogar wrote:
shtolky wrote:Doncic looks fine. It's KP that should be the concern, though again, it's only preseason.


KP hasn't played for 19 months. He looks pretty solid all things considered.
Agreed! This thread is just confusing.

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Post#50 » by Nuntius » Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:32 am

It's not a concern at all. Luka is a shot-creator and he created a number of high difficulty shots last season that he wasn't good enough to hit yet. I'm confident that he will soon be good enough hit those shots.
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Re: Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern? 

Post#51 » by batigol18 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:23 am

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For example, LeBron use to be a much more efficient scorer. He just didn’t take shots he wasn’t comfortable with. But ultimately it made LeBron easier to game plan for. Only after LeBron developed a deeper arsenal of play-off shots did he break through to win championships.

In the play-offs opponents prepare better defenses. And make adjustments that are not made in the regular season because it’s a 7 game series.

Eventually most players hit this wall. Then through a series of rounding out their games break through it.

Best to just give Luca a green light to use the next 24 months to develop as much as he can. And then be able to use the best strategy in the play-offs based on the opponent. Than to just be a specialist at what he is already good at. Luca is that talented. I wouldn’t give many players the green light.

In summary strengthen his weaknesses.

And to take it even further I think Luca should identify 24 skills/moves to maximize his potential. And master them at the rate of 1 per month.


Probably the biggest strenght for Luka are "high-pressure" situations. His best performances in Europe were in play-offs, knock-out matches and this is the reason why he won almost everything possible in Europe with his club and NT and was usually best and most clutch player of his team, at age of 18, 19.

He will individually probably play worse against "Shanghai Chickens" than against LA Lakers in game 7 in play-off. That is his mentality.

I really can't wait until Dallas will be good enough to reach play-off. Because I'm sure many NBA fans from USA didn't see Luka in such situations yet and how good he is in such situation...
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Re: Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern? 

Post#52 » by Bob8 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:08 am

I don’t believe Luka cares a lot about his stats. You can see how he adores impossible full court shots in last seconds of the quarters. He likes flashy plays and taking (too) difficult shots. And he has no fear whatsoever. I believe that’s great for 20 years old player, he’s so much in front of learning curve, because he’s doing that since he was 16 years old. Americans doubt how he will look in playoffs, but he already played hundreds of war games in Europe, where almost every game is a battle till death, with big success. Bottom line is that he might never have great efficiency stats in regular season, but his playoffs efficiency will be as good or better and in the end only playoffs matters, if you want to win something. Luka is one of those players, who are just having fun playing basketball and it shows. Something stats suffers because of that, but who really cares. I’m sure, that he will be the best, when it will matter the most. Until then he should just try as many things possible and develop his game.
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Post#53 » by CelticsLV » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:10 am

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Re: Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern? 

Post#54 » by UcanUwill » Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:54 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:I am concerned about his efficiency and shot selection. Chucks up too many bad shots. He looks even worse this preseason, 41.5% FG. That’s awful.


He is scoring on 60.8 TS%, thats very good for high scoring guard, like what are you even watching, FG% :crazy:
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Post#55 » by TheNewEra » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:25 pm

Alfred wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I am concerned about his efficiency and shot selection. Chucks up too many bad shots. He looks even worse this preseason, 41.5% FG. That’s awful.


Stop using FG% to talk about players who take 5+ threes a game! End the madness!


When did FG% become something not used I specifically remember it being talked about with Terry Rozier?
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Post#56 » by foreigngrammar » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:30 pm

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Johnny Firpo wrote:He is scoring at an elite, 60%TS efficiency.


Where the hell is this coming from? Doncic's TS was 54% last year (ranked 138th). For illustrative purposes, 60% was what Kawhi Leonard did TS% wise, ranked 30th overall.

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Post#57 » by ShotCreator » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:19 pm

Doncic is very impressive in the little I've seen from him.
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Post#58 » by Pennebaker » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:42 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:I am concerned about his efficiency and shot selection. Chucks up too many bad shots. He looks even worse this preseason, 41.5% FG. That’s awful.


FG% is just FG%. That's but one part of the efficiency pie.
His overall efficiency as a rookie was pretty good - better than the rookie LeBron James.
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Re: Doncic's efficiency and shot selection, is it a concern? 

Post#59 » by AdagioPace » Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:09 pm

this thread gave me "90s vibes".
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Post#60 » by TheBoi10 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:00 pm

Doncic and Porzingis = The inefficient bros

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