Chinese Government Wanted NBA To Fire Morey

Jim Naismith · Post #61 » by **Jim Naismith** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:41 am

What would Muhammad Ali have done?

He would have refused to fight Asian Communists.

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The Flying Gent · Post #62 » by **The Flying Gent** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:50 am

RoyceDa59 wrote:Not really a pro-communist guy. Prefer freedom of speech and expression.

He said, as if these things were related or mutually exclusive.

Post #63 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:50 am

Morey wants the Chinese Government fired, so how bout they split the difference

The Warrior · Post #64 » by **The Warrior** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:56 am

Jim Naismith wrote:What would Muhammad Ali have done?

He would have refused to fight Asian Communists.

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He didn't feel it was necessary to fight a war that had nothing to do with him. Not sure how that has anything to do with this scenario since he wasn't drafted to fight in a war against China, but anyway I'm pretty sure he would side with the oppressed rather than the oppressors.

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so_bored · Post #65 » by **so_bored** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:57 am

leolozon wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:
Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Wirh the risk of being sued by Morey just after that.

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Sued for what? Tillman Fertita would be well within his rights to fire Morey. If any of us go to work and make a decision that costs our boss $50+ million dollars, we are getting fired and escorted out of the building on the SPOT

The only way Morey would have a case is if he’s not able to get another NBA job and can prove that the league is conspiring to blackball him. And even then , whatever the league would pay Morey in a settlement is waaay less than the money they’d be losing if the NBA China deal falls through.

I understand, but dislike when people are putting the blame on Morey. The blame should be on China for being so insecure and controlling. I think a decent owner could well side with a loyal employee if an irrational client is trying to burn down the building, because said employee disagreed with the client about politics.

Anyone/anything well balanced would have just looked at the tweet and not care. What power does Morey hold? He’s a GM on a basketball team, not some world leader. Will China start boycotting everything if just 1 employee disagrees with them?

You can’t give in, else what will it be next time? China will do everything it pleases and everyone will be too afraid to talk about it.

Morey may be just a GM here, but he is much more than that in China. He has millions of followers and supporters in China because of him being part of the Houston Rockets, the beloved and official partner of China. Thus he is a figure of power in China. There were already people in China burning their national flag while wearing a Rocket jersey. They were already turning against their country in support of Morey and the NBA. They were detained right away. Being that China is a communist country, they are going to squash any chance of coup right away before it has any serious legs. China is no ordinary country. Your employee analogy is way off.

Johnny Bball · Post #66 » by **Johnny Bball** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:06 am

And this is in a nutshell how the government there thinks. They think the NBA has the ability to fire Morey. Forget the wherewithal. That says it all.

Johnny Bball · Post #67 » by **Johnny Bball** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:08 am

The Warrior wrote:
Jim Naismith wrote:What would Muhammad Ali have done?

He would have refused to fight Asian Communists.

Watch on YouTube
He didn't feel it was necessary to fight a war that had nothing to do with him. Not sure how that has anything to do with this scenario since he wasn't drafted to fight in a war against China, but anyway I'm pretty sure he would side with the oppressed rather than the oppressors.

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The Vietnamese kicked China’s ass after the US left And they walked in, so it’s a solid decision if you ask me.

andyhop · Post #68 » by **andyhop** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:13 am

I think that Morey is going to find himself unemployable in the NBA after he leaves the Rockets. He will be on the Do Not Hire list alongside Hinkie

BeatDaCavs420 · Post #69 » by **BeatDaCavs420** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:14 am

Lebron prolly asked for it to happen also lol

Jim Naismith · Post #70 » by **Jim Naismith** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:16 am

The Warrior wrote:
Jim Naismith wrote:What would Muhammad Ali have done?

He would have refused to fight Asian Communists.

Watch on YouTube
He didn't feel it was necessary to fight a war that had nothing to do with him. Not sure how that has anything to do with this scenario since he wasn't drafted to fight in a war against China, but anyway I'm pretty sure he would side with the oppressed rather than the oppressors.

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Seems like you're completely unaware that over 100,000 Chinese fought on the North Vietnamese side against the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_in_the_Vietnam_War

The Warrior · Post #71 » by **The Warrior** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:21 am

Jim Naismith wrote:
The Warrior wrote:
Jim Naismith wrote:What would Muhammad Ali have done?

He would have refused to fight Asian Communists.

Watch on YouTube
He didn't feel it was necessary to fight a war that had nothing to do with him. Not sure how that has anything to do with this scenario since he wasn't drafted to fight in a war against China, but anyway I'm pretty sure he would side with the oppressed rather than the oppressors.

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Seems like you're completely unaware that over 100,000 Chinese fought on the North Vietnamese side against the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_in_the_Vietnam_War

What does that have to do with what I said.

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Jim Naismith · Post #72 » by **Jim Naismith** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:24 am

The Warrior wrote:
Jim Naismith wrote:
The Warrior wrote:He didn't feel it was necessary to fight a war that had nothing to do with him. Not sure how that has anything to do with this scenario since he wasn't drafted to fight in a war against China, but anyway I'm pretty sure he would side with the oppressed rather than the oppressors.

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Seems like you're completely unaware that over 100,000 Chinese fought on the North Vietnamese side against the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_in_the_Vietnam_War
What does that have to do with what I said.

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You seem to think China wasn't fighting the US in the Vietnam War.

Illmatic12 · Post #73 » by **Illmatic12** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:31 am

leolozon wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:
Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Wirh the risk of being sued by Morey just after that.

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Sued for what? Tillman Fertita would be well within his rights to fire Morey. If any of us go to work and make a decision that costs our boss $50+ million dollars, we are getting fired and escorted out of the building on the SPOT

The only way Morey would have a case is if he’s not able to get another NBA job and can prove that the league is conspiring to blackball him. And even then , whatever the league would pay Morey in a settlement is waaay less than the money they’d be losing if the NBA China deal falls through.

I understand, but dislike when people are putting the blame on Morey. The blame should be on China for being so insecure and controlling. I think a decent owner could well side with a loyal employee if an irrational client is trying to burn down the building, because said employee disagreed with the client about politics.

Anyone/anything well balanced would have just looked at the tweet and not care. What power does Morey hold? He’s a GM on a basketball team, not some world leader. Will China start boycotting everything if just 1 employee disagrees with them?

You can’t give in, else what will it be next time? China will do everything it pleases and everyone will be too afraid to talk about it.

I’m not hating on Morey but we have to be objective here and examine his actions like anyone else.

Look, obviously everyone has freedom of speech and there’s nothing wrong with expressing that as a US citizen. But as an EMPLOYEE , freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences.

If I tell my boss I’m skipping work to go to a protest , yes it’s my right to protest if I choose to do that. But if my team has deadlines that day and I’m not there, my workplace has the right to hold me responsible because I knew damn well what my priorities were yet still chose to bail on my coworkers. You have to be reliable if you want others to work with you.

Daryl clearly didn’t understand the context of his tweet, because he quickly deleted it and released an apology. So to me, that indicates that he KNOWS he shouldn’t have sent it and probably didn’t think it through.You’re a 47yo grown man and you cannot be trusted to manage your social media account during a sensitive time? Yes that is grounds to be fired or reprimanded.

The Warrior · Post #74 » by **The Warrior** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:43 am

Jim Naismith wrote:
The Warrior wrote:
Jim Naismith wrote:
Seems like you're completely unaware that over 100,000 Chinese fought on the North Vietnamese side against the US.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_in_the_Vietnam_War
What does that have to do with what I said.

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You seem to think China wasn't fighting the US in the Vietnam War.

I'm talking about now in the present. The scenario being unrelated to any sort of war and holding no merit to him not wanting to fight and kill by going to war.

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Indomitable · Post #75 » by **Indomitable** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:47 am

Henry Turner wrote:What a bunch of losers seriously.
Makes me even more mad vs lebron that he nailed down and kissed their asses.

Lebron is a con man.

Jim Naismith · Post #76 » by **Jim Naismith** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:02 am

The Warrior wrote:
Jim Naismith wrote:
The Warrior wrote:What does that have to do with what I said.

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You seem to think China wasn't fighting the US in the Vietnam War.

I'm talking about now in the present. The scenario being unrelated to any sort of war and holding no merit to him not wanting to fight and kill by going to war.

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You seem to be backtracking from the false claim at the heart of your argument:

since he wasn't drafted to fight in a war against China

Post #77 » by **G R E Y** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:12 am

Good on Silver for taking a strong stand here about Morey to the Chinese government.

scrabbarista · Post #78 » by **scrabbarista** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:15 am

This man demands Morey's firing, then concludes, "Whoever insults China must die!!!"

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lakerz12 · Post #79 » by **lakerz12** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:20 am

GREY 1769 wrote:Good on Silver for taking a strong stand here about Morey to the Chinese government.

This is like congratulating a prostitute for using a condom.

Post #80 » by **kulaz3000** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:22 am

scrabbarista wrote:This man demands Morey's firing, then concludes, "Whoever insults China must die!!!"

Watch on YouTube

Yep, because there aren't extremist and idiots in any other parts of the world. Only in China right?