Duke4life831 wrote:simonbampfield wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
That is true and you're right, Barnes contract or not he would've most likely waited till free agency. Bad point by me.
With that said though, don't think the Kings can afford Barnes contract, a new Hield contract, and match a Bogdan contract, with having to plan for Fox's contract as well.
Why can’t they sign them?
As you well know too, the contracts signed this summer are part of the plan IMO.
They can sign all of these guys and take a couple of seasons to choose which ones fit correctly. It isn’t a situation where they have to choose right now, or even next summer. Let this group play for 2 full seasons and then start trading the ones that aren’t fitting correctly. Would you agree that is a logical step to take?
Now if they do sign them and this China situation goes south then they will be in trouble.
I will say with Barnes front loaded contract, that definitely helps. 18 mil his final year wont be the hardest thing to unload, since that final year of his contract will be the first year of Bagley's new deal. If all 5 are on the team, you would be looking at those 5 by themselves taking up the entire cap space for the team which would be far from ideal.
This brings me back to my original point from when the Kings originally gave Barnes this contract. It kills all potential cap flexibility for this team. I love all the other deals they made, loved the non guarantees and short term deals, I thought those were very smart. The Barnes deal kills the cap flexibility though. I thought it was a long term deal that was a major overpay, that hurt the potential of you guys having amazing cap flexibility moving forward.
The only time the Kings were going to have flexibility was this summer and next. No one was signing with the Kings this summer. Next summer they may have established themselves as a team on the rise, however what FAs from a poor class is going to sign?
In some ways I believe they already knew they wanted to see what this group had in them and wanted at least 2-3 years together and while this isn't the exact best way to do that, it was one of.
So, the flexibility isn't really needed in Sacramento, they need the contracts and yes HB is overs, no one is going to deny that.
I don't think Barnes' contract is going to be hard to move
However getting to your point, which is a good one of the 5 players being on the roster and taking up the entire cap. I agree completely. I just don't see all 5 of them being on the roster at that time. I do think Vlade has to get creative with some salaries because I still think the core is Fox/Buddy/Bogs/Bagley/Giles.
What I forgot to put in the previous post was I believe the hardest thing isn't going to sign them all, look at it in reverse, it's going to be finding the cheap talent to fill out the roster.
I have said before that Vlade has done a good job of getting a lot of chances coming up in the 2nd round to do this, however it's simply not lining up with when the contracts kick in, which would be for say 21/22 season and onward.
That's not to say they aren't planning for it, but I would like to see trades coming up in the next year to continue stockpiling picks into the future.
Everyone just seems like it's panic stations if these guys don't sign now, but hey they are restricted FAs and after the season Buddy is about to have he will have great value (hence why the Kings should just pay him). It's not like Buddy is going anywhere and his value is only going to go up.
