[Bucher] Steph Curry unlikely to return this year

[Yogatti]

IF Steph Curry can carry a team then why did he needed Kevin Durant? Why would you add another MVP to your team after you just won unanimous MVP? Shouldn’t you be able to win by yourself? After all your are the unanimous MVP. Instead Wardell choked in the finals. Blew a 3-1 lead. He was so traumatized by it that he had to get Kevin Durant to come join him to make sure this never happened again

So I guess you believe KD was so traumatized by losing 3-1 to Curry that he had to team up with them? Or do you hold a double standard?

It’s definitely possible KD joined them for that reason too. Those 2 soft cupcakes needed each other to beat Lebron

[Yogatti]

After winning the MVP, 67 games and the championship the year before. Then winning 73 games and the first unanimous MVP in league history. Also winning 50+ games the year before that as the only all star on a Mark Jackson coached team and leading GS to the 2nd round of the playoffs the prior to that while also being coached by Mark Jackson. Yet you're still questioning if he can carry his own team?



How many guys in the league are multiple MVP winners, a champion, multiple conference champion. If that resume right there isn't prove someone can carry their own team. Then please make a list of guys according to you that can carry their own team.

Like the GOAT said, 73 win don’t mean a thing without a ring.

Btw, Curry doesn’t have any FMVPs

Who said he did have any FMVPs? Also what does MJ have to say about 73 wins have to do with anything in this conversation. Again I would love to see your list of guys that can carry a team.

So don’t make him out as some kind of all-time great when he doesn’t even have a FMVP. And it’s not only MJ that thinks this way. The Warriors owner agreed with him when MJ said it right in his face.

[nikster]

D’Angelo Russell was an all-star last season and Draymond Green who is DPOY

Lol you for real? Literally every roster Kawhis has played with is at least 20 wins better than this current Warriors team.

Curry can’t carry a team when he still has all-star D’Angelo Russell and DPOY Draymond Green

Some of the things I've learned from the anti curry crowd (mostly Yogatti)

1. 2 bad regular season games is enough to expose a superstar
2. D Angelo Russell is a legit impact player
3. This current Warriors roster outside of Curry is comparable to a 50 win team while simultaneously being incapable of making the playoffs with Curry.
4. One unverified source disputed by the team is enough for this bashing
5. Curry never accomplished anything before Durant
6. Curry is soft for breaking his hand

[GeorgeMarcus]

IF Steph Curry can carry a team then why did he needed Kevin Durant? Why would you add another MVP to your team after you just won unanimous MVP? Shouldn’t you be able to win by yourself? After all your are the unanimous MVP. Instead Wardell choked in the finals. Blew a 3-1 lead. He was so traumatized by it that he had to get Kevin Durant to come join him to make sure this never happened again

So I guess you believe KD was so traumatized by losing 3-1 to Curry that he had to team up with them? Or do you hold a double standard?

It’s definitely possible KD joined them for that reason too. Those 2 soft cupcakes needed each other to beat Lebron

And you said Harden is a fraud... Are there any good players in the NBA? Lol

[nikster]

At first they said it was 3 months and now he's out for the whole season because Curry doesn't want to carry the load. They still have D'angelo Russell(all-star last season) and Draymong(DPOY). He shouldn't just give up

also Manu played with a broken arm in the playoffs, that's crazy

Apparently the report was debunked, but even if it wasn't I assume the FO would have a bigger hand in that than Steph. Steph wants to play.

Curry doesn't want to play because he doesn't want to get exposed. You can deny it all you want and make a bunch of excuses. He wants no part of that team unless he's playing on a stacked team

This is easily your most hypocritical post. Kawhi has yet to play for an untalented roster. The first time he has a decision in free agency, joining a western Conference playoff team wasn't enough so he forces another MVP candidate to the team

[Yogatti]

So I guess you believe KD was so traumatized by losing 3-1 to Curry that he had to team up with them? Or do you hold a double standard?

It’s definitely possible KD joined them for that reason too. Those 2 soft cupcakes needed each other to beat Lebron

And you said Harden is a fraud... Are there any good players in the NBA? Lol

James Harden couldn’t even win one game after KD went down in game 5(I think...) Lost the series in their home court to a KD-less Warriors.

[Duke4life831]

Like the GOAT said, 73 win don’t mean a thing without a ring.

Btw, Curry doesn’t have any FMVPs

Who said he did have any FMVPs? Also what does MJ have to say about 73 wins have to do with anything in this conversation. Again I would love to see your list of guys that can carry a team.

So don’t make him out as some kind of all-time great when he doesn’t even have a FMVP. And it’s not only MJ that thinks this way. The Warriors owner agreed with him when MJ said it right in his face.

This is the definition of a straw man argument. Please point out in any of these posts in this thread by me where Im making the argument that Curry is an all time great. My entire push back this entire time is the absurd notion that Curry is sitting out the season because he is afraid that he will get exposed that he cant carry a team.

There is a massive middle ground between, being able to carry a team without being exposed and all time great. Again still waiting for the list of players that can carry their team.

[nikster]

So I guess you believe KD was so traumatized by losing 3-1 to Curry that he had to team up with them? Or do you hold a double standard?

It’s definitely possible KD joined them for that reason too. Those 2 soft cupcakes needed each other to beat Lebron

And you said Harden is a fraud... Are there any good players in the NBA? Lol

In his mind there are non outside of Kawhi lol

[thebigbird]

After winning the MVP, 67 games and the championship the year before. Then winning 73 games and the first unanimous MVP in league history. Also winning 50+ games the year before that as the only all star on a Mark Jackson coached team and leading GS to the 2nd round of the playoffs the prior to that while also being coached by Mark Jackson. Yet you're still questioning if he can carry his own team?



How many guys in the league are multiple MVP winners, a champion, multiple conference champion. If that resume right there isn't prove someone can carry their own team. Then please make a list of guys according to you that can carry their own team.

You've repeated yourself multiple times while significantly downplaying the importance of Klay Thompson and the rest of the supporting cast. Curry didn't "carry" the Warriors those years. They had two other great players and ridiculous depth.

Lets look at Klay compared to other #2 options from past NBA championships

Klay
Kyrie
38 year old Duncan
Wade 2x
Jason Terry
Gasol 2x
KG
Shaq
Tony Parker
Hard to tell for Detroit
Kobe 3x

Those are all the champions prior to the KD/GS run from this century. You have Jason Terry below him, probably whatever #2 you want from Detroit. Then a close decision between Tony Parker, Klay and 38 year old Duncan. Then you got about 10 championships with clearly better #2 options. Again GS won their 1st championship the first year Klay was an all star and Draymond's 1st year as a starter.

Im not saying Curry was surrounded by trash, that GS team was a very well built team. But this idea that this would've been the 1st year Curry wouldnt have been surrounded by all stars and the 1st year he would have to carry a team is complete garbage. What about the 2 playoff years with Mark Jackson as the coach and David Lee as his #2?

It seems we have much different definitions of "carry."

[Duke4life831]

You've repeated yourself multiple times while significantly downplaying the importance of Klay Thompson and the rest of the supporting cast. Curry didn't "carry" the Warriors those years. They had two other great players and ridiculous depth.

Lets look at Klay compared to other #2 options from past NBA championships

Klay
Kyrie
38 year old Duncan
Wade 2x
Jason Terry
Gasol 2x
KG
Shaq
Tony Parker
Hard to tell for Detroit
Kobe 3x

Those are all the champions prior to the KD/GS run from this century. You have Jason Terry below him, probably whatever #2 you want from Detroit. Then a close decision between Tony Parker, Klay and 38 year old Duncan. Then you got about 10 championships with clearly better #2 options. Again GS won their 1st championship the first year Klay was an all star and Draymond's 1st year as a starter.

Im not saying Curry was surrounded by trash, that GS team was a very well built team. But this idea that this would've been the 1st year Curry wouldnt have been surrounded by all stars and the 1st year he would have to carry a team is complete garbage. What about the 2 playoff years with Mark Jackson as the coach and David Lee as his #2?

It seems we have much different definitions of "carry."

Whats your definition of carry.

[Yogatti]

Apparently the report was debunked, but even if it wasn't I assume the FO would have a bigger hand in that than Steph. Steph wants to play.

Curry doesn't want to play because he doesn't want to get exposed. You can deny it all you want and make a bunch of excuses. He wants no part of that team unless he's playing on a stacked team

This is easily your most hypocritical post. Kawhi has yet to play for an untalented roster. The first time he has a decision in free agency, joining a western Conference playoff team wasn't enough so he forces another MVP candidate to the team

Kawhi left a championship team. When’s the last time a superstar FMVP left a team after winning a title. NEVER

And he added Paul George because why the hell not?

Michael Jordan had Scottie Pippen. Lebron has Wade and Kyrie Irving. Kevin DUrany joined the Warriors.

And don’t even get me started on the team Larry Bird and Magic Johnson had in the 80s

[WHITE_HOT_HEAT]

It's Ric Bucher. One of the worst hacks in sports journalism. Journalism in itself now is a cesspool of humanity's worst being peddled for views and Bucher is one of the vilest cretins when it comes to sports. The guy shouldn't have a job and must be villified for the crap he spews.

That being said, if it turns out to be true, I will be extremely disappointed in Curry. It's a cop out. Those defending him cannot possibly argue in favour of him being shut down for something that minimal.... And I was ready to defend him from the horde despite not being a fan of his shimmies..

[Yogatti]

Who said he did have any FMVPs? Also what does MJ have to say about 73 wins have to do with anything in this conversation. Again I would love to see your list of guys that can carry a team.

So don’t make him out as some kind of all-time great when he doesn’t even have a FMVP. And it’s not only MJ that thinks this way. The Warriors owner agreed with him when MJ said it right in his face.

This is the definition of a straw man argument. Please point out in any of these posts in this thread by me where Im making the argument that Curry is an all time great. My entire push back this entire time is the absurd notion that Curry is sitting out the season because he is afraid that he will get exposed that he cant carry a team.

There is a massive middle ground between, being able to carry a team without being exposed and all time great. Again still waiting for the list of players that can carry their team.

That’s pretty much what happened in the first 4 games this season. All of them were blowouts proving Curry can’t carry a team

[lonzo_pelota]

warriors are definitely getting the #1, we all know how this works.

keep the machine pumping

Warriors getting Lamelo Ball really lmaooo, have at him

[nikster]

Curry doesn't want to play because he doesn't want to get exposed. You can deny it all you want and make a bunch of excuses. He wants no part of that team unless he's playing on a stacked team

This is easily your most hypocritical post. Kawhi has yet to play for an untalented roster. The first time he has a decision in free agency, joining a western Conference playoff team wasn't enough so he forces another MVP candidate to the team

Kawhi left a championship team. When’s the last time a superstar FMVP left a team after winning a title. NEVER

And he added Paul George because why the hell not?

Michael Jordan had Scottie Pippen. Lebron has Wade and Kyrie Irving. Kevin DUrany joined the Warriors.

And don’t even get me started on the team Larry Bird and Magic Johnson had in the 80s

Curry: "he's so soft he wants no part of a team unless it's stacked"

Kawhi: "of course he wants to play on a stacked team, why the hell not"

And somehow you won't even see the irony

[GeorgeMarcus]

And he added Paul George because why the hell not?

"Curry added KD because why the hell not?" See the problem? You can't accuse Curry and then defend Kawhi... That's blatant hypocrisy.

[nikster]

It’s definitely possible KD joined them for that reason too. Those 2 soft cupcakes needed each other to beat Lebron

And you said Harden is a fraud... Are there any good players in the NBA? Lol

James Harden couldn’t even win one game after KD went down in game 5(I think...) Lost the series in their home court to a KD-less Warriors.

[Yogatti]

And he added Paul George because why the hell not?

"Curry added KD because why the hell not?" See the problem. You can't accuse Curry and then defend Kawhi... That's blatant hipocrisy.

Curry added KD after he choked a 3-1 lead in the finals. Begged Kevin Durant to join him so he doesn’t get embarrassed again

Kawhi added Paul George after winning a title.

[GeorgeMarcus]

And he added Paul George because why the hell not?

"Curry added KD because why the hell not?" See the problem. You can't accuse Curry and then defend Kawhi... That's blatant hipocrisy.

Curry added KD after he choked a 3-1 lead in the finals. Begged Kevin Durant to join him so he doesn’t get embarrassed again

Kawhi added Paul George after winning a title.

I'd love to see the evidence of that. Oh wait there isn't any? Didn't think so Baseless narratives out the ass.

[Yogatti]

This is easily your most hypocritical post. Kawhi has yet to play for an untalented roster. The first time he has a decision in free agency, joining a western Conference playoff team wasn't enough so he forces another MVP candidate to the team

Kawhi left a championship team. When’s the last time a superstar FMVP left a team after winning a title. NEVER

And he added Paul George because why the hell not?

Michael Jordan had Scottie Pippen. Lebron has Wade and Kyrie Irving. Kevin DUrany joined the Warriors.

And don’t even get me started on the team Larry Bird and Magic Johnson had in the 80s

Curry: "he's so soft he wants no part of a team unless it's stacked"

Kawhi: "of course he wants to play on a stacked team, why the hell not"

And somehow you won't even see the irony

Kawhi didn’t choose to join the Raptors. He was banished to Toronto. He went there, didn’t pout or whine like Kyrie and AD did. He played hard and won a championship.