Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP

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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#101 » by bran muffin » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:24 pm

R-DAWG wrote:The real issue with Ingram is he needs the ball to be effective. He was not great next to Lebron, whereas a guy like Kuzma is much better in the off the ball, make quick decisions/shots roll.

Ingram has been excellent, and will get a max contract from someone. But he's not a fit on every roster.

It will be interesting to see if Ingram can maintain this level of play once Zion is back in the lineup.
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#102 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:39 pm

bran muffin wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:The real issue with Ingram is he needs the ball to be effective. He was not great next to Lebron, whereas a guy like Kuzma is much better in the off the ball, make quick decisions/shots roll.

Ingram has been excellent, and will get a max contract from someone. But he's not a fit on every roster.

It will be interesting to see if Ingram can maintain this level of play once Zion is back in the lineup.


Zion isn't a ball dominant player. His return really shouldn't have any negative effect on how much Ingram gets the ball.
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#103 » by getitdone323 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:33 pm

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getitdone323 wrote:Countless people on this site, neckbeard twitter, and excel sheet twitter told me that Ingram was not a good player and he was tiers below Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. I wish i bookmarked some of the pages, but one guy literally wrote an essay using BI's metrics to show that he will amount to a below average to average player. These same people would laugh at us lakers fans when we kept telling you he would be good, but all that mattered was his advanced stats VORP, PER, etc

He can score at all 3 levels efficiently now, be a playmaker/ even run your offense, and still play solid defense when has to (dropped a bit this season, but in a new system)


...but if he was still laker, people will find anything to dismiss his success.


NOP didnt even give him an offer, i hope he tells Griffin to go **** himself


Get your bag BI, you deserve it.


No, stats said he wasn't as good of a prospect, and it was just advanced like Vorp or ws. He had a negative rpm every season he was in L.A. Has he even played a dozen games yet? Is this supposed to wash away the 50x sample size?



he is going to continue this type of play whether celtics fans, neckbeard twitter, VORP twitter, etc like it or not.


what will be the excuse you guys use when he does continue this type of play for the season?
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#104 » by Infinitimind » Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:54 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:If they don't want to max him he'd look great with RJ.


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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#105 » by ADMVP » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:02 am

Infinitimind wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:If they don't want to max him he'd look great with RJ.


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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#106 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:20 am

24/6/4 on 59 TS%, All Star in the west, significant improvement every year and still only 22 years old. Ya he's getting a max deal.
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#107 » by Alonzo_Morning » Mon Jun 22, 2020 12:45 am

There's no doubt he's better than Jamal Murray, so there's your starting point
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#108 » by arh1109 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:03 am

No way he's just a stat padder
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#109 » by Alonzo_Morning » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:09 am

arh1109 wrote:No way he's just a stat padder


Das bait
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#110 » by Infinitimind » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:30 am

ADMVP wrote:
Infinitimind wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:If they don't want to max him he'd look great with RJ.


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I’m dreaming because I keeping hearing how the COVID 19 is going to affect small ownership and the cap might be lower. Plus the fact that they are already talking no fans next year owners might not want to spent. Hey I’m a knicks fan and god knows we need to catch a break. But I agreed he worth the max and the pelicans should do everything to keep him
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#111 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:40 am

arh1109 wrote:No way he's just a stat padder


Stat Padders don’t have a 59% true shooting. They have a 52% true shooting.
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#112 » by ADMVP » Mon Jun 22, 2020 1:59 pm

Infinitimind wrote:
ADMVP wrote:
Infinitimind wrote:
Yes we can dream
You're allowed to dream but don't hurt yourself because he's staying in New Orleans.

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I’m dreaming because I keeping hearing how the COVID 19 is going to affect small ownership and the cap might be lower. Plus the fact that they are already talking no fans next year owners might not want to spent. Hey I’m a knicks fan and god knows we need to catch a break. But I agreed he worth the max and the pelicans should do everything to keep him
Letting Ingram go now probably does more damage to the profit margin in seasons to come. Also, no one on the team wants to see that and we haven't had a good starting wing since Stojakovic.

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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#113 » by lamscott » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:03 pm

I'm so glad, Ingram and Lonzo are showing their stuff on the Pelicans. The GB in shambles again for killing Laker fans who supported both and kept saying that both were going to very good.
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#114 » by Ckay » Mon Jun 22, 2020 3:07 pm

Get that money BI.
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#115 » by arh1109 » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:09 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
arh1109 wrote:No way he's just a stat padder


Das bait


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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#116 » by thinkingwarriors » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:35 pm

arh1109 wrote:
Alonzo_Morning wrote:
arh1109 wrote:No way he's just a stat padder


Das bait


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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#117 » by Lost Angel » Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:59 pm

Ingram is incredibly good. I’ve always said it.

New Orleans is set with him and Zion. If Lonzo can gain consistency then they have a great trio to build around.
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#118 » by Trey24 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:03 am

I think that while Ingram may not be a max player right now, teams need to bet on his future. I'm a huge fan of his. It would surprise me if he wasn't tendered a max offer in October
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#119 » by Sabas11 » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:02 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:24/6/4 on 59 TS%, All Star in the west, significant improvement every year and still only 22 years old. Ya he's getting a max deal.


That's the thing though. His improvement from his first 3 years to his year 4 has been mind-boggling. I cannot remember anything like that.

Went from a poor FT shooter (sub 70%) to elite (86%) in one season
Went from bad 3PT shooter (about 33%) to very good (39%) on 3 times the volume in one season
All other stats categories went up significantly

Is this real? I want to say yes and I'd give him the MIP in heartbeat as well as a max contract. But man, again I cannot remember such an exponential improvement in just a single season (especially the FT and 3PT shooting numbers) so I can understand the pause for reflection.
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Re: Is Brandon Ingram a max player and the MIP 

Post#120 » by God Squad » Tue Jun 23, 2020 12:07 pm

I wouldn't pay him the max, but someone will. But kudos to his improvement . I'd give MIP to Bam Adebayo also.

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