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Data from NBA.com - There's some surprises on here, will be interesting to see how the list changes as the season progresses...

https://on.nba.com/34mXRV4

Player Name (oFGM / oFGA) - oFG%:
Larry Nance (45 / 62) - 72.6%
Tyson Chandler (27 / 38) - 71.1%
Kevin Love (55 / 80) - 68.8%
Nikola Jokic (62 / 91) - 68.1%
Lauri Markkanen (74 / 109) - 67.9%
Meyers Leonard (31 / 46) - 67.4%
Frank Kaminsky (63 / 97) - 64.9%
Thon Maker (48 / 74) - 64.9%
Bruno Fernando (25 / 39) - 64.1%
Robert Williams III (25 / 39) - 64.1%




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KAT btw is on the other end of the spectrum allowing only 43.4%

Karate Diop wrote:Data from NBA.com - There's some surprises on here, will be interesting to see how the list changes as the season progresses...

https://on.nba.com/34mXRV4

Player Name (oFGM / oFGA) - oFG%:
Larry Nance (45 / 62) - 72.6%
Tyson Chandler (27 / 38) - 71.1%
Kevin Love (55 / 80) - 68.8%
Nikola Jokic (62 / 91) - 68.1%
Lauri Markkanen (74 / 109) - 67.9%
Meyers Leonard (31 / 46) - 67.4%
Frank Kaminsky (63 / 97) - 64.9%
Thon Maker (48 / 74) - 64.9%
Bruno Fernando (25 / 39) - 64.1%
Robert Williams III (25 / 39) - 64.1%




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Who's the surprise here? Robert Williams?

NirvanaFC wrote:

Karate Diop wrote:Data from NBA.com - There's some surprises on here, will be interesting to see how the list changes as the season progresses...

https://on.nba.com/34mXRV4

Player Name (oFGM / oFGA) - oFG%:
Larry Nance (45 / 62) - 72.6%
Tyson Chandler (27 / 38) - 71.1%
Kevin Love (55 / 80) - 68.8%
Nikola Jokic (62 / 91) - 68.1%
Lauri Markkanen (74 / 109) - 67.9%
Meyers Leonard (31 / 46) - 67.4%
Frank Kaminsky (63 / 97) - 64.9%
Thon Maker (48 / 74) - 64.9%
Bruno Fernando (25 / 39) - 64.1%
Robert Williams III (25 / 39) - 64.1%




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Who's the surprise here? Robert Williams?

yeah none of these names are remotely surprising

isn't Jokic supposed to be an at least average defender?

Chandler maybe. Isn't he only in games for this by now?

3 names after Robert Williams is Joel Embiid at 61.3%......

In all honesty I can't find the surprise on that list. Robert Williams is the only one close to a surprise, but that is the issue with Robert Williams right now, he finds himself out of position way too often where he cant be in a good spot to really defend shots. If he would be in better position defensively, he wouldnt allow guys to shoot that high of a % and he would be getting more than 15 minutes a game. Either than that, those are kind of the group of names I would've expected.

packforfreedom wrote:KAT btw is on the other end of the spectrum allowing only 43.4%

Ya good on KAT. A -16% difference is damn impressive. Also no shock AD leads the league with a -18% difference, the dude has been crazy good in that aspect this year.

Good thread..was looking at the list..not a surprise that AD is 2nd best in this category. KAT is 5th best in this category. Stats also match eye test for KAT..he has definitely looked much better defensively this season...also helps that he is finally getting some weakside help defensively...which wasn't a thing when defensive guru Thibs was here

KAT's numbers of the above stat by season -
15-16: 56%
16-17: 60%
17-18: 61%
18-19: 55% (he had much better numbers when RoCo was fit but it became worse as season went on with all injuries to Wolves)
19-20: 43% (5th best in the league)

As always, question with KAT defensively is whether he can sustain this for longer periods or not. Also, defensive schemes of the team is really important while judging how good defender a player is and that's something which I have seen lot of ppl ignore..if Wolves were still using the stupid defensive schemes that Thibs was using when he was here, I doubt KAT''s numbers would have been this good.

Also surprised to see Embiid so low. Maybe he might be coasting defensively in the regular season this year I guess.

NirvanaFC wrote:

Karate Diop wrote:Data from NBA.com - There's some surprises on here, will be interesting to see how the list changes as the season progresses...

https://on.nba.com/34mXRV4

Player Name (oFGM / oFGA) - oFG%:
Larry Nance (45 / 62) - 72.6%
Tyson Chandler (27 / 38) - 71.1%
Kevin Love (55 / 80) - 68.8%
Nikola Jokic (62 / 91) - 68.1%
Lauri Markkanen (74 / 109) - 67.9%
Meyers Leonard (31 / 46) - 67.4%
Frank Kaminsky (63 / 97) - 64.9%
Thon Maker (48 / 74) - 64.9%
Bruno Fernando (25 / 39) - 64.1%
Robert Williams III (25 / 39) - 64.1%




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Who's the surprise here? Robert Williams?

Not really. The guy has unlimited defensive potential but he's very undisciplined as of now.

He's the type that wants to block every shot as opposed to consistently making the right play. It's also why he can be so foul prone.

It's an extremely common problem with raw athletic rim protectors.

I think with good coaching he will eventually be a great interior defender. I really like his long term potential, but not really shocked by this stat.

NirvanaFC wrote:

Karate Diop wrote:Data from NBA.com - There's some surprises on here, will be interesting to see how the list changes as the season progresses...

https://on.nba.com/34mXRV4

Player Name (oFGM / oFGA) - oFG%:
Larry Nance (45 / 62) - 72.6%
Tyson Chandler (27 / 38) - 71.1%
Kevin Love (55 / 80) - 68.8%
Nikola Jokic (62 / 91) - 68.1%
Lauri Markkanen (74 / 109) - 67.9%
Meyers Leonard (31 / 46) - 67.4%
Frank Kaminsky (63 / 97) - 64.9%
Thon Maker (48 / 74) - 64.9%
Bruno Fernando (25 / 39) - 64.1%
Robert Williams III (25 / 39) - 64.1%




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Who's the surprise here? Robert Williams?

Maybe Chandler too because he used to be a great rim protector but it shouldn’t be that shocking in 2019.

That list had very few surprises actually.

Jokic needs to get in shape because he literally has no lift or lateral speed to challenge any shot.

Nance is such a weird dude. He was an incredible defender when he first went to the cavs. Dude blocked everything and played the PNR very well. Then all of a sudden he just sucks. Guess it’s another example of the dangers of paying someone in a contract year.

Texas Chuck wrote:

NirvanaFC wrote:

Karate Diop wrote:Data from NBA.com - There's some surprises on here, will be interesting to see how the list changes as the season progresses...

https://on.nba.com/34mXRV4

Player Name (oFGM / oFGA) - oFG%:
Larry Nance (45 / 62) - 72.6%
Tyson Chandler (27 / 38) - 71.1%
Kevin Love (55 / 80) - 68.8%
Nikola Jokic (62 / 91) - 68.1%
Lauri Markkanen (74 / 109) - 67.9%
Meyers Leonard (31 / 46) - 67.4%
Frank Kaminsky (63 / 97) - 64.9%
Thon Maker (48 / 74) - 64.9%
Bruno Fernando (25 / 39) - 64.1%
Robert Williams III (25 / 39) - 64.1%




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Who's the surprise here? Robert Williams?

yeah none of these names are remotely surprising

Jokic being this bad based on what he's shown in the past, and Robert Williams based on the fact that I've been repeatedly told he is a superstar in the making (remember he was a lottery pick that fell to the Celtics )...

Lauri being this bad was also a bit surprising to me, but I wonder if some of that is Lavine letting everyone blow by him...

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Jokic always was and still is a very good defender. Rim protection is just a small part of the defense. As a center, you can block (alter) shots at the rim or simply prevent players from shooting at the rim with good positioning. With good positional defense, he is forcing players into tougher shots - floaters or midrange jumpers. He is also collecting defensive rebounds after misses. That is Denver's defensive strategy and it is working, the Nuggets are first in the NBA in defensive rating.

Keep doing your thing K Love.

Dude has literally given up in the paint his whole career when his opponent puts up a shot.

Most surprising name on the list is definitely Embiid. Wouldn't expect him to be that bad defending close to the basket.

I'm more interested in who's elite at it.

https://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-lt6/?sort=LT_06_PCT&dir=-1&CF=GP*GE*10:PLAYER_POSITION*E*C:PLAYER_NAME*E*&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PerMode=Totals

Kudos to AD for finally getting to that DPOY level and being #1 among players who have played more than 10 games. KAT with a tremendous leap on rim D as well so far at #4. Both Lopez twins at #2 and #3 is pretty amazing and could help explain why Bucks have been so dominant on D to this point. Zupac is #6. Surprised Gobert is #10.