MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened

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Who is your pick for the 2019-20 MVP?

Giannis
143
68%
James
15
7%
Leonard
2
1%
Doncic
15
7%
Butler
3
1%
Davis
2
1%
Harden
5
2%
Jokic
14
7%
Lillard
11
5%
Gobert
1
0%
 
Total votes: 211

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MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened 

Post#1 » by ken6199 » Wed Jan 1, 2020 8:09 pm

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January Results
Spoiler:
Seikou 1/31:
https://www.nba.com/article/2020/01/31/kia-mvp-ladder-jan-31-edition

BBalref:
Giannis 58%
Harden 11.1%
LeBron 10.7%
Davis 8%
Doncic 5%

RealGM:
Giannis 53%
Doncic 17%
LeBron 12%
Harden 11%
Butler 3%


December Results:
Spoiler:
Seikou 12/27:
https://www.nba.com/article/2019/12/27/kia-mvp-ladder-dec-27-edition-2019-20?collection=mvp-ladder

Bballref:
Giannis 43%
Harden 32%
LeBron 8%
Doncic 7%
Davis 6%

RealGM:
Giannis 51%
Doncic 24%
LeBron 11%
Harden 5%
Davis 3%


November Results:
Spoiler:
Seikou 11/29:
https://www.nba.com/article/2019/11/29/kia-mvp-ladder-nov-29-edition-2019-20?collection=mvp-ladder

RealGM:
Giannis 32%
Lebron 24%
Doncic 22%
Harden 7%
Kawhi 7%


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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened 

Post#2 » by AussieBuck » Wed Jan 1, 2020 8:15 pm

Kemba out here early voting.
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Bruno Caboclo would be an all star if he played under Giannis "rules".
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Post#3 » by ShotCreator » Wed Jan 1, 2020 8:18 pm

Harden is the best player in the league this year. All-time offense and good defense.
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Post#4 » by RB34 » Wed Jan 1, 2020 8:48 pm

I’m all for the C’s love but who tf voted for Kemba lol
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Post#5 » by Dimosthenis » Wed Jan 1, 2020 8:55 pm

Kemba is the real deal :lol:
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Post#6 » by First Take » Wed Jan 1, 2020 9:01 pm

Lebron James. Year 17, aged 35 doing some amazing things. Playing a new position with a brand new roster. The man is on a mission after everyone wrote him out.
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Post#7 » by Packbuckman » Wed Jan 1, 2020 9:24 pm

Giannis is the best player in the league who does it all for the bucks and leading them to a league best 30-5 record.
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Post#8 » by ken6199 » Wed Jan 1, 2020 9:24 pm

Kemba: 2.
LeBron + AD: 2

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Post#9 » by Dirk » Wed Jan 1, 2020 9:46 pm

I voted for Luka,

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Post#10 » by Ballerhogger » Wed Jan 1, 2020 9:49 pm

Giannis
AD
Harden
Obvious front runners
Giannis has very considerable lead over everyone.
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Post#11 » by scrabbarista » Wed Jan 1, 2020 10:26 pm

Harden is

1st in Win Shares,
1st in Value Over Replacement Player,
1st in PIPM Wins Added, and
1st in RAPTOR Wins Above Replacement
2nd in RPM Wins (behind James).

Those are the five main advanced stats, besides the per-minute PER, in which Harden is 2nd (behind Antetokounmpo). Antetokounmpo has less than a 5% lead in PER, and Harden has played more than 25% more minutes than Antetokounmpo.

Harden also leads the top three candidates with a +12.7 On-Off per100. Antetokounmpo is +7.4 and James is +10.4.

Harden is also 1st in my MVP formula, with 13.9 to Antetokounmpo's 13.2. James is 3rd at 11.2.
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Post#12 » by Patches Perry » Wed Jan 1, 2020 11:39 pm

Still Giannis. It only gets interesting of Milwaukee doesn't finish with the best record in the league.
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Post#13 » by +2number4+ » Thu Jan 2, 2020 1:12 am

I'm going Luca then close second Giannis.
I just prefer the lottery to legit playoff team narrative for the Mavericks lead by the out of this world performances of Luca, a sophomore.

Forget it if Mavs fall out of Top 4 though.
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Post#14 » by zonedefense » Thu Jan 2, 2020 1:15 am

scrabbarista wrote:Harden is

1st in Win Shares,
1st in Value Over Replacement Player,
1st in PIPM Wins Added, and
1st in RAPTOR Wins Above Replacement
2nd in RPM Wins (behind James).

Those are the five main advanced stats, besides the per-minute PER, in which Harden is 2nd (behind Antetokounmpo). Antetokounmpo has less than a 5% lead in PER, and Harden has played more than 25% more minutes than Antetokounmpo.

Harden also leads the top three candidates with a +12.7 On-Off per100. Antetokounmpo is +7.4 and James is +10.4.

Harden is also 1st in my MVP formula, with 13.9 to Antetokounmpo's 13.2. James is 3rd at 11.2.


More like those are your random picks. Why WS? Why not BPM? Why punish Giannis for playing less minutes because his team is blowing out the opponent?
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Post#15 » by Strepbacter » Thu Jan 2, 2020 3:16 am

It's Giannis and it's not close.
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Post#16 » by HotRocks34 » Thu Jan 2, 2020 3:43 am

Giannis


Harden


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Post#17 » by HotRocks34 » Thu Jan 2, 2020 3:43 am

Anyone know what Giannis weighs these days? He's jacked.
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Post#18 » by brettski » Thu Jan 2, 2020 3:49 am

zonedefense wrote:
scrabbarista wrote:Harden is

1st in Win Shares,
1st in Value Over Replacement Player,
1st in PIPM Wins Added, and
1st in RAPTOR Wins Above Replacement
2nd in RPM Wins (behind James).

Those are the five main advanced stats, besides the per-minute PER, in which Harden is 2nd (behind Antetokounmpo). Antetokounmpo has less than a 5% lead in PER, and Harden has played more than 25% more minutes than Antetokounmpo.

Harden also leads the top three candidates with a +12.7 On-Off per100. Antetokounmpo is +7.4 and James is +10.4.

Harden is also 1st in my MVP formula, with 13.9 to Antetokounmpo's 13.2. James is 3rd at 11.2.


More like those are your random picks. Why WS? Why not BPM? Why punish Giannis for playing less minutes because his team is blowing out the opponent?


Because he is completely unbiased... aside from being a Rockets fan that is nuthugging Harden.
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Post#19 » by TheProdigy » Thu Jan 2, 2020 3:55 am

scrabbarista wrote:Harden is

1st in Win Shares,
1st in Value Over Replacement Player,
1st in PIPM Wins Added, and
1st in RAPTOR Wins Above Replacement
2nd in RPM Wins (behind James).

Those are the five main advanced stats, besides the per-minute PER, in which Harden is 2nd (behind Antetokounmpo). Antetokounmpo has less than a 5% lead in PER, and Harden has played more than 25% more minutes than Antetokounmpo.

Harden also leads the top three candidates with a +12.7 On-Off per100. Antetokounmpo is +7.4 and James is +10.4.

Harden is also 1st in my MVP formula, with 13.9 to Antetokounmpo's 13.2. James is 3rd at 11.2.

You're probably going to need to revise your formula after this season if (when) Giannis wins MVP again.
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Post#20 » by brettski » Thu Jan 2, 2020 4:01 am

Also, Harden is first in winshares while Giannis is first in Win Shares per 48. In other words per minute on the court Giannis is more valuable. In other words again scrabbarista is trying to ovwr value total minutes played to fit his narative.
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