MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened

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Who is your pick for the 2019-20 MVP?

Giannis
210
62%
James
92
27%
Harden
8
2%
Leonard
2
1%
Doncic
9
3%
Jokic
4
1%
Tatum
4
1%
Davis
3
1%
Butler
1
0%
Siakam/Westbrook
6
2%
 
Total votes: 339

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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened 

Post#1381 » by Packbuckman » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:25 pm

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machu46 wrote:Okay, so after normalizing for possessions and realizing Giannis still has Shaq beat across the board, what do we do next?


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Still try to justify that LeBron should win when Giannis stats are ay better on both sides of the ball. And the thing people are missing is Giannis is not even close to his average for free throws this year if he was his stats would be unreal.

I wont debate Giannis is more deserving of MVP but are stats really saying he is a better offensive player (certainly not way better)? Lakers have a better offensive rating, Lebrons offensive rating is higher, Lebrons points generated by assists is larger than the difference in scoring, offensive win shares favour lebron but ORPM favours Giannis.


Lakers might have a better offensive rating but the bucks score the most points and have the best point differential of anyone by far. Best record and so on Lebron is having a great season no doubt I just think Giannis season is just better and when his free throws go back to his normal 70’s percent next season and beyond he will be even better think about that. Plus his defense also just gets better.
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened 

Post#1382 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:03 am

The voters are going to weifjt these games very heavily, even if unintentionally. The season is a long ago memory at this point.

But Giannis doesn’t really coast or try to conserve himself, so he always comes out at the befinning of seasons at a ridiculous pace, so he’ll probably put up stupid numbers through this play in schedule.


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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened 

Post#1383 » by Texas Chuck » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:44 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:The voters are going to weifjt these games very heavily, even if unintentionally.


I'm actually really curious about this. I think some may do just that. I also think there are some who will see these 8 games as so different that they will assign very little weight to them. Many of the voters have written or talked on a podcast about pretty much being ready to turn in their ballots.

The other thing I ask myself is if Giannis sat out the 8 games and Lebron played them all and put up 30/10/10 on good efficiency, played good defense, and the Lakers went 7-1 would it be enough to pass Giannis? I think for me the answer might be no.
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened 

Post#1384 » by NO-KG-AI » Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:21 pm

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NO-KG-AI wrote:The voters are going to weifjt these games very heavily, even if unintentionally.


I'm actually really curious about this. I think some may do just that. I also think there are some who will see these 8 games as so different that they will assign very little weight to them. Many of the voters have written or talked on a podcast about pretty much being ready to turn in their ballots.

The other thing I ask myself is if Giannis sat out the 8 games and Lebron played them all and put up 30/10/10 on good efficiency, played good defense, and the Lakers went 7-1 would it be enough to pass Giannis? I think for me the answer might be no.


They say stuff like that... but then the game comes on, and it's all they worry about :lol:

I think if Giannis sat out, it would do better for him than playing bad, if that makes any sense.

Like I said though, the dude is going to come out balls to the wall if I had to bet. He'll clinch MVP easily either way IMO,
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened 

Post#1385 » by The_Hater » Sat Jul 4, 2020 3:15 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:The voters are going to weifjt these games very heavily, even if unintentionally.


I'm actually really curious about this. I think some may do just that. I also think there are some who will see these 8 games as so different that they will assign very little weight to them. Many of the voters have written or talked on a podcast about pretty much being ready to turn in their ballots.

The other thing I ask myself is if Giannis sat out the 8 games and Lebron played them all and put up 30/10/10 on good efficiency, played good defense, and the Lakers went 7-1 would it be enough to pass Giannis? I think for me the answer might be no.


If that exact scenerio occurred, I think the answer would be yes. Recency bias always exists in award voting and with a 4 month layoff it would be more pronounced than ever.

However, I don’t see Bron playing all 8 games or enough mpg to post those numbers. The star players on the true contenders are going to be eased back into action and get plenty of rest to avoid injury.
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened 

Post#1386 » by Jstock12 » Sat Jul 4, 2020 9:08 pm

Giannis, hands down. Doesn't have another MVP caliber teammate to help him.
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Re: MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened 

Post#1387 » by teksablabb » Today 6:35 pm

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