skones wrote:boomershadow wrote:When Steph won his back to back MVPs, he had demonstrably raised his game to a level beyond what he had done the year before. Giannis is basically doing what he did last year and what people expect to see out of him for years to come. The MVP is a narrative award, and the Bucks, while successful, are pretty much about where they should be. Lebron raised his team from the lottery to the number 1 seed when there wasn't even clear consensus that the Lakers would make it back to the playoffs. And he IS the engine of that team. Don't let stats fool you.
Giannis has numbers that are a little bit better. If you think that makes him the MVP over Lebron, okay, but I don't think it does. It's not just a PPG award.
I can't believe this is even a post.
4.5 points more per 100 possessions, 2.6 rebounds more per 100 possessions. Impact numbers up across the board. Now let's dig in a little further to what really makes him the MVP and makes you look ignorant.
Leading the a historically dominant defense.
Like are you serious? Going so far as to state it's "not just a ppg award?" If you want to believe the MVP is a narrative award, sure, it is. The problem here is the narrative that you're trying to push in this post is about as lame duck as it gets. "Lebron raised his team from the lottery to the number 1 seed?" That's what we call a false narrative. Frank Vogel, Anthony Davis, Danny Green, Avery Bradley, Dwight Howard. Those guys don't bring anything to the table that Luke Walton, Lonzo Ball, Brandon Ingram, Reggie Bullock, and Josh Hart didn't. K.
Yeah. I'm serious. 4.5 ppg is the argument? Slightly better rebounder. Almost half the assists, which you didn't mention. Giannis is an amazing defender, too. No doubt about that.
Lebron may have one better teammate than anyone Giannis had, but top to bottom I'd say it's a wash or slightly favors Giannis. No team with AD, Dwight Howard, and Avery Bradley is going anywhere by themselves.