MVP Discussion [19/20] [part II] - voting opened

[C0bR]

LeBron moving away from Giannis

Goldsberry spells out the reasons pretty well

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28538415/lebron-james-making-real-nba-mvp-race

[Young gun 6]

LeBron moving away from Giannis

Goldsberry spells out the reasons pretty well

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28538415/lebron-james-making-real-nba-mvp-race

Shouldn’t it say moving closer to Giannis to make it a race?

[HotRocks34]

Giannis in cruise control.

If he and the Bucks stay healthy (big if), he should easily repeat as MVP.

[WRau1]

Giannis would have to miss 15+ games or his play would completely have to fall off a cliff to not repeat. This MVP race is about as close as the Bucks avg win margin.

[Benedict_Boozer]

LeBron moving away from Giannis

Goldsberry spells out the reasons pretty well

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28538415/lebron-james-making-real-nba-mvp-race

Really impressive that a 35 year old Lebron can even be that high in the MVP convo, alot of dudes are scrubs by that age - even great players without the mileage he has fall off the cliff at 35.

I'd personally still favor Giannis but have to give him his due.

[Edrees]

Luka voted into the All Star game ahead of Harden. Gives an indication where media has them on the mvp ladder.

Whoa, I never thought about using the results that way, but that's so true.

[mediocrityrules]

Luka voted into the All Star game ahead of Harden. Gives an indication where media has them on the mvp ladder.

Whoa, I never thought about using the results that way, but that's so true.

Harden playing his way out of it game by game anyway

[The Lazy Potato]

Can we just give it to the Greek Freak already? IT'S OVER !!!

[Triples333]

Harden averaging 25/6/6 on 35/23/85 over the past 8 games. Houston 3-5. He has officially exited stage left on the MVP debate.

I don't really see how a case could be built for anyone over Giannis. He/they are in cruise control dominance of the regular season.

[KGtabake]

It seems that the best player in the game is showing what he can do if needed.
Kawhi is posting 34/7/5/3 on 50% from the field in the last 10 games.
Clippers went 8-2.
Overall he's played 35 games on 27/7.5/5/2 averages. Clippers are 27-8 with him on the court.

If(that's a big if) he doesn't miss more than 30 games going forward he definitely deserves mention.
The Clippers are 4 games behind the Lakers. It won't be easy to stay close(there's no chance to get the #1 seed) with George missing all those games but his abscense made the case for Kawhi tbh and will boost his chances against LeBron.
Head to head Kawhi dominated 2 times(for those of you interested in "national tv games" narrative)

His advanced stats aren't anywhere near the top5 in every category but he's top10-15 in almost every meaningful stat.
He's also climbing the PER rankings steadily(now 6th).
Certainly not MVP worthy for now but he can finish top3 easily.
If Harden keeps falling and the Mavs don't improve, he will surpass both Luka and Harden based on team rankings alone.
Gobert, Jokic, Butler, Davis will get mentions too but none of them has a chance.

As it stands it's a Giannis vs LeBron race.
If it was a vote for the best player, i think that Kawhi is the best player on the planet atm(with KD injured)

[Packbuckman]

It seems that the best player in the game is showing what he can do if needed.
Kawhi is posting 34/7/5/3 on 50% from the field in the last 10 games.
Clippers went 8-2.
Overall he's played 35 games on 27/7.5/5/2 averages. Clippers are 27-8 with him on the court.

If(that's a big if) he doesn't miss more than 30 games going forward he definitely deserves mention.
The Clippers are 4 games behind the Lakers. It won't be easy to stay close(there's no chance to get the #1 seed) with George missing all those games but his abscense made the case for Kawhi tbh and will boost his chances against LeBron.
Head to head Kawhi dominated 2 times(for those of you interested in "national tv games" narrative)

His advanced stats aren't anywhere near the top5 in every category but he's top10-15 in almost every meaningful stat.
He's also climbing the PER rankings steadily(now 6th).
Certainly not MVP worthy for now but he can finish top3 easily.
If Harden keeps falling and the Mavs don't improve, he will surpass both Luka and Harden based on team rankings alone.
Gobert, Jokic, Butler, Davis will get mentions too but none of them has a chance.

As it stands it's a Giannis vs LeBron race.
If it was a vote for the best player, i think that Kawhi is the best player on the planet atm(with KD injured)

He has been playing great for those 10 games but Giannis puts up better numbers for the year with 30-13-5 on 55% from the field in under 31 minutes a game. Who I think is the best player now and still not at his ceiling yet. Plus he’s a great defender. I have Giannis comfortably in lead for MVP leading a 40-6 team.

[trueballer7]

LeBron moving away from Giannis

Goldsberry spells out the reasons pretty well

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28538415/lebron-james-making-real-nba-mvp-race

Nice paid piece. Its a high probability he's never watched the NBA, including current season.

[NY 567]

It's Giannis's award to lose. Second place should be an interesting and closely contested between Luka and LeBron. Kawhi, AD, Jokic, Butler, Walker, Harden, Paul round out the rest of the contenders in no particular order.

[mademan]

It seems that the best player in the game is showing what he can do if needed.
Kawhi is posting 34/7/5/3 on 50% from the field in the last 10 games.
Clippers went 8-2.
Overall he's played 35 games on 27/7.5/5/2 averages. Clippers are 27-8 with him on the court.

If(that's a big if) he doesn't miss more than 30 games going forward he definitely deserves mention.
The Clippers are 4 games behind the Lakers. It won't be easy to stay close(there's no chance to get the #1 seed) with George missing all those games but his abscense made the case for Kawhi tbh and will boost his chances against LeBron.
Head to head Kawhi dominated 2 times(for those of you interested in "national tv games" narrative)

His advanced stats aren't anywhere near the top5 in every category but he's top10-15 in almost every meaningful stat.
He's also climbing the PER rankings steadily(now 6th).
Certainly not MVP worthy for now but he can finish top3 easily.
If Harden keeps falling and the Mavs don't improve, he will surpass both Luka and Harden based on team rankings alone.
Gobert, Jokic, Butler, Davis will get mentions too but none of them has a chance.

As it stands it's a Giannis vs LeBron race.
If it was a vote for the best player, i think that Kawhi is the best player on the planet atm(with KD injured)

Gonna be a shame when Kawhi doesnt even get All-NBA 1st team.

[dygaction]

It seems that the best player in the game is showing what he can do if needed.
Kawhi is posting 34/7/5/3 on 50% from the field in the last 10 games.
Clippers went 8-2.
Overall he's played 35 games on 27/7.5/5/2 averages. Clippers are 27-8 with him on the court.

If(that's a big if) he doesn't miss more than 30 games going forward he definitely deserves mention.
The Clippers are 4 games behind the Lakers. It won't be easy to stay close(there's no chance to get the #1 seed) with George missing all those games but his abscense made the case for Kawhi tbh and will boost his chances against LeBron.
Head to head Kawhi dominated 2 times(for those of you interested in "national tv games" narrative)

His advanced stats aren't anywhere near the top5 in every category but he's top10-15 in almost every meaningful stat.
He's also climbing the PER rankings steadily(now 6th).
Certainly not MVP worthy for now but he can finish top3 easily.
If Harden keeps falling and the Mavs don't improve, he will surpass both Luka and Harden based on team rankings alone.
Gobert, Jokic, Butler, Davis will get mentions too but none of them has a chance.

As it stands it's a Giannis vs LeBron race.
If it was a vote for the best player, i think that Kawhi is the best player on the planet atm(with KD injured)

Gonna be a shame when Kawhi doesnt even get All-NBA 1st team.

He missed too many games with the load management thing. The first NBA team is likely to be the western all-star team with him out Giannas in. Kawhi has no case over LeBron and Giannas.

[DrWood]

Giannis in cruise control.

If he and the Bucks stay healthy (big if), he should easily repeat as MVP.

why would it be a _big_ if?

[Cavsfansince84]

I think Giannis is in near unanimous mvp territory now with Harden having a smaller role in the Rockets' offense the last week or two. I bet he'll get all but like 2-3 votes.

[mediocrityrules]

I thought Harden is just chucking really inefficiently? You make it sound like the coach has restructured the team to lessen hardens role?


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[HotRocks34]

If the Bucks win 70 games and Giannis remains healthy, will he be the unanimous pick?

[kazyv]

If the Bucks win 70 games and Giannis remains healthy, will he be the unanimous pick?

i'd say the lakers will get some votes no matter what, so no