MJ VS LEBRON VS WHOEVER THREAD

[Kamby93]

News flash, Jordan didn’t play 6 years in the nba. People gotta stop using this 6/6 in their arguments. Just because you didn’t make the finals doesn’t mean you DIDNT lose. 6/15 is his actual record and even that being said can you have worse finals competition ? We leaving 6/6 in the last decade. This is the 1 argument people have for Jordan over bron and it’s expired. Lemme know when Jordan carries a team to the finals that has no business being there. I’m open to someone changing my mind about Lebron >jordan with a real argument. Until then lebron the goat and it’s not even close.


Edit: I see a lot of people saying lebron made 2 superteams. That’s probably what he was going for but that ain’t what he got. The heat were probably a super team for their first year after that wade was shot, missing 30-40% of regular season games and year 3/4 of that era averaging 16-17ppg in the playoffs. If that’s the second best player on your superteam that team ain’t so super lol. And we’ve seen the cavs recently whenever lebron would take a seat on the bench what the result of that team was. As for 2011, lebrons first year on “wades” team he let wade and bosh try and go get it they both shot more than him that series. Only after that summer when he said I got this is when they won, and people gotta stop downplaying the mavs that year, swept a back2back champ, beat the spurs, then okc in 5. Give them credit too.

[ThumbsUpBaby]

This gon' be fun.

[PT416]

I'm not saying Lebron's the goat but the 6/15 is a great point.

[marcush]

6 from 6 in the Finals. Not a difficult concept to comprehend.

[RB34]

Posts like this deserve an insta ban.

Edit: No matter what kind of argument you make, you will never erase 2011.

[JN61]

6/15>3/17 just saying.

[Green89]

Well, Lebron is more penalized for his Finals losses than a player who loses in earlier rounds of the playoffs.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

ONLY 6 times?!

Man that’s just terrible considering he’s the goat and all and played 15 years

[HomoSapien]

LeBron is great. No question about it, but if we are going to play this game then let’s stop talking about how he dragged a team that didn’t deserve it to the NBA finals. He played in the Eastern conference during it’s weakest era. Later on he benefited by joining forces with his two biggest conference rivals and benefited from an elite Bulls team being destroyed by Rose’s injury.

Also what blatant disrespect to Magic Johnson/Worthy, Drexler/Porter, Barkley/KJ, Kemp/Payton, and Malone/Stockton. None of those teams were as good as the Warriors but Jordan bulldozed through hall of famers to get his rings.

[Green89]

6/15>3/17 just saying.

I dn't have time ATM to look up each player's playoff history, but let's say each player gets:

1 point for first round playoff exit
2 points for second round playoff exit
3 points for Confernce Finals loss
4 points for Finals loss
5 points for Finals win

Who wins on points?

[DaddyCool19]

What a fraud. Should have went 15/15 if he wants to be considered the GOAT.

[marcush]

Well, Lebron is more penalized for his Finals losses than a player who loses in earlier rounds of the playoffs.

Can we just compromise and say Lebron better in the early rounds and MJ better in the Finals?

[Gooner]

These teenage fans are really funny.

[DrCoach]

WTF

Jordan had TWO 3 peats

If he didn’t retire for baseball he most likely would have won 8 straight.

[JN61]

6/15>3/17 just saying.

I dn't have time ATM to look up each player's playoff history, but let's say each player gets:

1 point for first round playoff exit
2 points for second round playoff exit
3 points for Confernce Finals loss
4 points for Finals loss
5 points for Finals win

Who wins on points?

You play to win. You don't play to go lose in finals as your goal, having that 20% less valuable than championship is ridiculous. 3<6 I don't know how this is so odd concept.

[subbed sub]

WTF

Jordan had TWO 3 peats
If he didn’t have a serious gambling problem he most likely would have won 8 straight.

Fixed

[Gooner]

Well, Lebron is more penalized for his Finals losses than a player who loses in earlier rounds of the playoffs.

It's all about context. He formed two super teams and he played in a very weak east. Getting to the finals was minimum requirement, but when he faced the team that was of the same caliber as his, he would lose for the most part. It's a major knock on his legacy whether his fans like it or not.

[dynamic duo]

lebron has been the best player in the finals 7 times now, jordan only made the finals 6 times playing inferior teams. lebron may also end up with 40k/10k/10k which is insane. lebron is the clear-cut goat and it's not even close.

[Green89]

6/15>3/17 just saying.

I dn't have time ATM to look up each player's playoff history, but let's say each player gets:

1 point for first round playoff exit
2 points for second round playoff exit
3 points for Confernce Finals loss
4 points for Finals loss
5 points for Finals win

Who wins on points?

You play to win. You don't play to go lose in finals as your goal, having that 20% less valuable than championship is ridiculous. 3<6 I don't know how this is so odd concept.

It's pretty fair, considering it's a team game. Individual strength can only be truly measured in sports like tennis or wrestling. Barry Sanders never won a Super Bowl, yet I don't care what running back has more rings than him, he's still better than them.

[JN61]

Well, Lebron is more penalized for his Finals losses than a player who loses in earlier rounds of the playoffs.

It's all about context. He formed two super teams and he played in a very weak east. Getting to the finals was minimum requirement, but when he faced the team that was of the same caliber as his, he would lose for the most part. It's a major knock on his legacy whether his fans like it or not.

And he should have never lost to spurs or mavericks in the finals. When you have supposedly the best player on the floor, you can't be wiped off like that.