trueballer7 wrote: SF_Warriors wrote:
trueballer7 wrote: I dont know who doesnt watch games, I know who doesnt read carefully. Did I compare Grant to Thompson? Or did I compare his status to that of Thompson? Or is that the same thing?
Ho Grant was closer to al horford than he is tristan thompson.
Would you say tristan is in the same status as horford? Because that is essentially the type of comparison you are making.
Or saying something like jae crowder is in the same status as robert covington.
Not a valid comparison imo. And if we compare skillsets and impact there is a vast difference...we can bring analytics into this but honestly we shouldn't have to.
Come on now mate, tell me that Grant at his best was more important than Thompson, I 'll run with that, although much of that has to do with the environment he played and Bulls' success, much like a Steve Kerr or BJ Armstrong etc, but ok. Dont tell me he was Horford. That's absurd, beyond absurd. Even in a bad team, Grant wouldnt have been higher than the third scoring option and thats with several ifs. Phil, who was Grants' own coach for much of his career, so much appreciated Grants' offensive prowess he didnt guard him at all in the 1995 playoffs. Horace made the shots eventually, but you get the picture. Otis Thorpe was a clear cut better player than Grant, but you wouldnt compare Otis to Horford. Roy Tarpley was a much much better player than Grant. And I'm not even bringing the top pfs of that era. Grants and Thompsons skillsets are very much alike, with the exception of Grant being a much better individual defender.
I would say Ho would easily be a tier above TT, and horford a tier above Ho..Ho Grant was better both ends than tristan and its not even arguable to me.
At the same point of their careers Ho Grant had better Ortg, Drtg, VORP, slightly higher BPM, than horford
He was an impactful player but he did play with great players. So impact wise, much more similiar to horford than TT
Otis Thorpe was a quality player offensively, not so much on the other end.
Tarpley averaged 12.6 ppg for his career and really only played one full season.
Ho Grant, in his only playoff series against Chicago averaged 20 ppg on 70% FG%...
I mean, you could say Ho and TT were both role players, but not all role players are create equal just like not all all stars are created equal. You basically compared two guys in different tiers.