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Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 2:47 am
by Reeko
Looking at their career numbers they are fairly similar and their numbers at their peaks are also similar. They can both get you about 22 ppg 3 apg and 3 rpg, Reggie was considered a good defender but Klay is an elite defender. Klay is, up to this point, a marginally better 3 pt shooter but I would say that Reggie could score in more ways and both have reputations for being clutch. Anyway, it's a tough one to decide so I'll let y'all be the judge.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 2:49 am
by bondom34

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 2:50 am
by Sofia
Klay couldn’t carry a team like Reggie could. Reggie and Cheryl were both 20 years too early.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 2:51 am
by Ugalde
so close. going to give it to reggie because he was the #1 on his team which is always harder than being the #2 like Klay.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 2:53 am
by SmoothLefty21
Reggie never carried a team; his supporting casts are criminally underrated. Those Pacers teams were good, tough, and phenomenally coached. Not sexy on paper but greater than the sum of their parts.

You can't average 20/3/3 and "carry" a team. Sorry, not possible.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 2:55 am
by Lalouie
isn't klay "spurtier".
reggie was the best player on his team while klay benefitted from the attention given to curry and his well endowed teammates. . theres no telling how either would fair if their spots were switched. put it this way, I'm pretty sure reggie would be as good if not better next to dray and curry et al,,,I'm not so sure klay would be better @indy

it's an unfair question as they played two different roles

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:00 am
by prolific passer
Klay is more well rounded but I have to with Reggie. I mean Reggie didn't back down from Spike Lee.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:03 am
by Triples333
Reggie was a decent margin better than Klay (who I do personally like a ton, but is always overrated, specifically in a debate like this where many would choose him over a guy like Reggie), and only got better in the post-season. Where Klay can go missing for weeks at a time (see: the entire 2017 post-season outside of some solid ISO D), Reggie was always throwing haymakers against the toughest teams in the biggest moments. As far as advanced metrics go, Reggie absolutely crushes this debate, helping to paint the clearer picture that this really is not a debate at all. Eye test wise - having seen probably a hundred Miller games and hundreds of Klay games in their prime - only widens the statistical gap.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:03 am
by Ill News
I think I'll take Klay. Both are great shooters, but Klay seems to be more dynamic and versatile. Contrary to what others say, he can create his own shot (he showed it in last year's Finals and in the past few playoffs) and he's an elite defender. Tough choice between those two, though.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:03 am
by CIN-C-STAR
I tend to think Klay is very underrated, but it is a bit hard to gauge when he's never been the best player on his team and he gets to play next to the greatest shooting threat in the history of the game which definitely creates opportunities for him.
Can you imagine Reggie Miller playing next to Curry? ()_()
So I'll go with Reggie but I think the answer is probably Klay, he just hasn't had a chance to prove it.
Weird answer, lol, but that's what I'm going with.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:07 am
by slick_watts
i don't like either of them. they're both overrated. still, i would prefer reggie. i don't think klay has or had a 1991 reggie season in him.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:12 am
by RoundMoundOfRebound
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Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:17 am
by LKN
This isn't remotely close at all.... Klay Thompson isn't even in the same tier as Reggie Miller. Keep in mind these numbers include all Reggies old man years.

Reggie Miller - 3.7 OBPM reg season, 5.0 OBPM playoffs
Klay Thompson - 1.8 OBPM reg season, 1.2 OBPM playoffs

In the postseason Miller scored 30.5 PTS/100, Thompson 25.8/100 (also higher per game averages despite slower pace)

Reggine Miller has a career .601 TS in the postseason and Thompson has a .560 TS

One huge difference - Miller is really good at drawing fouls and Klay is not

Miller FTr - .402, Thompson FTr - .141


These guys aren't really very close as players at all. Thompson is a slightly better rebounder, but Miller is a bit better passer.

Thompson is a better defender - but he's doesn't make nearly enough impact on that end to make up the offensive gap (which is honestly enormous - particularly in the playoffs).



I haven't even mentioned that Miller generally was the primary offensive threat on his teams while Thompson has spent his whole career playing next to 1-2 ATG offensive threats.


Reggie Miller is actually one of the more underrated players. He was an elite playoff performer. Again - his career playoff average OBPM was 5.0 - Thompson doesn't even have a single postseason that high (to compare to someone in his own era - Pippen never had a single run that good either).

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:23 am
by Lockdown504090
klay has none of the responsibility and hes still more inconsistent. defense matters though, so its closer than we may initially believe. but a third bannana cant be given credence over a first option that took his team deep in the playoffs over and over again.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:23 am
by Air Apparent
idk if klay can be the best player/1st option on a contending team

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:25 am
by VanWest82
Cheryl > Reggie > Klay

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:26 am
by Triples333
LKN wrote:This isn't remotely close at all.... Klay Thompson isn't even in the same tier as Reggie Miller. Keep in mind these numbers include all Reggies old man years.

Reggie Miller - 3.7 OBPM reg season, 5.0 OBPM playoffs
Klay Thompson - 1.8 OBPM reg season, 1.2 OBPM playoffs

In the postseason Miller scored 30.5 PTS/100, Thompson 25.8/100 (also higher per game averages despite slower pace)

Reggine Miller has a career .601 TS in the postseason and Thompson has a .560 TS

One huge difference - Miller is really good at drawing fouls and Klay is not

Miller FTr - .402, Thompson FTr - .141


These guys aren't really very close as players at all. Thompson is a slightly better rebounder, but Miller is a bit better passer.

Thompson is a better defender - but he's doesn't make nearly enough impact on that end to make up the offensive gap (which is honestly enormous - particularly in the playoffs).



I haven't even mentioned that Miller generally was the primary offensive threat on his teams while Thompson has spent his whole career playing next to 1-2 ATG offensive threats.


Reggie Miller is actually one of the more underrated players. He was an elite playoff performer. Again - his career playoff average OBPM was 5.0 - Thompson doesn't even have a single postseason that high (to compare to someone in his own era - Pippen never had a single run that good either).

You won't see a counter to a statistical argument for Reggie over Klay, because there simply is not one. And I have to imagine that the vast majority old enough to have seen the primes of both would equally scoff at the comparison. I'm a long time Warriors fan, and as perfect as Klay is for this team (what COULD be underrated is what a low-maintenance/consistent teammate he is), this comparison is just not close.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:29 am
by bondom34
VanWest82 wrote:Cheryl > Reggie > Klay

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Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:31 am
by HeartBreakKid
Ill News wrote:I think I'll take Klay. Both are great shooters, but Klay seems to be more dynamic and versatile. Contrary to what others say, he can create his own shot (he showed it in last year's Finals and in the past few playoffs) and he's an elite defender. Tough choice between those two, though.


If you look at PPG and nothing else then sure they are comparable scorers. Outside of that, it's easy to see Miller blows Thompson out of the water.

Reggie Miller is way more efficient than Klay despite playing in a less efficient era.

He scores comparable amount of points despite playing in an era where less 3 pointers were taken.

His playoff stats all rise dramatically, while Klay Thompson usually lowers.

Miller did all this while being the #1 option on his team. Klay always had at least one better guy than him as a scorer, and on top of that the two all time scorers he played with were amazing shooters themselves.

Re: Reggie Miller vs Klay Thompson

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 3:33 am
by LKN
bondom34 wrote:
VanWest82 wrote:Cheryl > Reggie > Klay

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