Why do people want to cancel rest of the season?

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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#121 » by Nuntius » Sat May 23, 2020 8:17 pm

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What are you talking about? Are you not paying attention to how this has been covered? This entire pandemic has been politicized, on both sides, I'm very liberal I campaigned for Bernie Sanders in 2016 + 2020 and I can see people on the left clearly leveraging this to hate republicans + trump get real dude.


Yes and what I'm saying is that it is **** up that you managed to politicize this situation. Pandemics shouldn't be politicized and not every country in the world has politicized like the US (some definitely have, the US isn't alone in this, but they aren't the majority).


So pointing out how the Administration bungled the situation, and how many lives could have been saved by not denying it was happening, and putting precautions in place earlier, is politicizing it? Pointing out that Trump continues to lie about the current status is politicizing? Actually, it's merely describing reality.


I think you misunderstood me. I don't have anything against criticizing the US administration for the way they bungled this. If anything, the politicization of this issue in the US started from the US administration itself.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#122 » by Nuntius » Sat May 23, 2020 8:28 pm

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What are you talking about? Are you not paying attention to how this has been covered? This entire pandemic has been politicized, on both sides, I'm very liberal I campaigned for Bernie Sanders in 2016 + 2020 and I can see people on the left clearly leveraging this to hate republicans + trump get real dude.


Yes and what I'm saying is that it is **** up that you managed to politicize this situation. Pandemics shouldn't be politicized and not every country in the world has politicized like the US (some definitely have, the US isn't alone in this, but they aren't the majority).



I'm just calling a spade a spade. I said in the OP I understand having health concerns for example someone who lives with an at risk family member or other health concerns for wanting to not have the season. That is not the type of response I have an issue with at all.

I'm a liberal, and as a liberal I've started to notice this problem with people of the liberal side of the aisle that have some unrelenting need to constantly out lib other liberals. People who are acting like by the NBA starting to plan to reopen the season are literally taking N95 masks off of health care workers, or otherwise squandering resources that would be going to people who need them all because their a big bad corporation and the current meta is thinking this country should remained sheltered indefinitely.

What I'm saying is f**k trump, **** the grandstanding of the dems, I want basketball and theirs really no good reason to not have the season, especially given the amount of precautions the NBA is likely to take. Yet here we are 6 pages deep and not one legit point has been made that justifies not having the season just a bunch of poor mouthing of how terrible america/the nba is treating restarting and reopening.

And understand this is coming from some who isn't afraid to self identify as a socialist in a room full of trump supporters. I'm just calling out bs on sight regardless of whose **** it is.


If you go back to page 3 you will see that I gave a number of reasons as to why the season shouldn't resume right now. To me, it just looks like you chose to respond to the replies that you could easily shot down and ignore the rest.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#123 » by chitownsalesmen » Sat May 23, 2020 8:31 pm

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Yes and what I'm saying is that it is **** up that you managed to politicize this situation. Pandemics shouldn't be politicized and not every country in the world has politicized like the US (some definitely have, the US isn't alone in this, but they aren't the majority).



I'm just calling a spade a spade. I said in the OP I understand having health concerns for example someone who lives with an at risk family member or other health concerns for wanting to not have the season. That is not the type of response I have an issue with at all.

I'm a liberal, and as a liberal I've started to notice this problem with people of the liberal side of the aisle that have some unrelenting need to constantly out lib other liberals. People who are acting like by the NBA starting to plan to reopen the season are literally taking N95 masks off of health care workers, or otherwise squandering resources that would be going to people who need them all because their a big bad corporation and the current meta is thinking this country should remained sheltered indefinitely.

What I'm saying is f**k trump, **** the grandstanding of the dems, I want basketball and theirs really no good reason to not have the season, especially given the amount of precautions the NBA is likely to take. Yet here we are 6 pages deep and not one legit point has been made that justifies not having the season just a bunch of poor mouthing of how terrible america/the nba is treating restarting and reopening.

And understand this is coming from some who isn't afraid to self identify as a socialist in a room full of trump supporters. I'm just calling out bs on sight regardless of whose **** it is.


If you go back to page 3 you will see that I gave a number of reasons as to why the season shouldn't resume right now. To me, it just looks like you chose to respond to the replies that you could easily shot down and ignore the rest.


First of all I have no problem with confrontation.

If I had an issue with your post, I would have called it out. While I don't agree with your take, you didn't present your case in the same ridiculous tenner that the post I was replying to did, acting as if the NBA opening is hogging up resources that would be available if only the nba wasn't going to waste them.

sounds like you don't like that I called that point out that this is being politicized by the left in addition the right.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#124 » by Nuntius » Sat May 23, 2020 8:38 pm

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I'm just calling a spade a spade. I said in the OP I understand having health concerns for example someone who lives with an at risk family member or other health concerns for wanting to not have the season. That is not the type of response I have an issue with at all.

I'm a liberal, and as a liberal I've started to notice this problem with people of the liberal side of the aisle that have some unrelenting need to constantly out lib other liberals. People who are acting like by the NBA starting to plan to reopen the season are literally taking N95 masks off of health care workers, or otherwise squandering resources that would be going to people who need them all because their a big bad corporation and the current meta is thinking this country should remained sheltered indefinitely.

What I'm saying is f**k trump, **** the grandstanding of the dems, I want basketball and theirs really no good reason to not have the season, especially given the amount of precautions the NBA is likely to take. Yet here we are 6 pages deep and not one legit point has been made that justifies not having the season just a bunch of poor mouthing of how terrible america/the nba is treating restarting and reopening.

And understand this is coming from some who isn't afraid to self identify as a socialist in a room full of trump supporters. I'm just calling out bs on sight regardless of whose **** it is.


If you go back to page 3 you will see that I gave a number of reasons as to why the season shouldn't resume right now. To me, it just looks like you chose to respond to the replies that you could easily shot down and ignore the rest.


If I had an issue with your post I would have called it out. I have no problem with confrontation.

sounds like you don't like that I called that point out that this is being politicized by the left in addition the right.


Nah. My response wasn't directed only to one side. It was directed to the US as a whole. I do believe that the politicization started from the US administration itself, though.

Edit: Also, in your post you said that you have not seen one legit point being made that justifies not having the season. If you agreed with my post then this part clearly isn't true.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#125 » by chitownsalesmen » Sat May 23, 2020 8:40 pm

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If you go back to page 3 you will see that I gave a number of reasons as to why the season shouldn't resume right now. To me, it just looks like you chose to respond to the replies that you could easily shot down and ignore the rest.


If I had an issue with your post I would have called it out. I have no problem with confrontation.

sounds like you don't like that I called that point out that this is being politicized by the left in addition the right.


Nah. My response wasn't directed only to one side. It was directed to the US as a whole. I do believe that the politicization started from the US administration itself, though.



Sure didn't seem like it, seemed like you where all for it until one side got caught in the crossfire.

WEIRD.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#126 » by Nuntius » Sat May 23, 2020 8:43 pm

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If I had an issue with your post I would have called it out. I have no problem with confrontation.

sounds like you don't like that I called that point out that this is being politicized by the left in addition the right.


Nah. My response wasn't directed only to one side. It was directed to the US as a whole. I do believe that the politicization started from the US administration itself, though.


Sure didn't seem like it, seemed like you where all for it until one side got caught in the crossfire.

WEIRD.


All for what? The politicization? No, even back in March I was saying that this isn't an issue that should be politicized. Criticizing an administration for failing to do what it's supposed to do in a time of crisis isn't politicization, imo.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#127 » by slamilcarBarca » Sat May 23, 2020 9:08 pm

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Nah. My response wasn't directed only to one side. It was directed to the US as a whole. I do believe that the politicization started from the US administration itself, though.


Sure didn't seem like it, seemed like you where all for it until one side got caught in the crossfire.

WEIRD.


All for what? The politicization? No, even back in March I was saying that this isn't an issue that should be politicized. Criticizing an administration for failing to do what it's supposed to do in a time of crisis isn't politicization, imo.


agreed. being a dem has nothing to do with cuomo's failure as a governor during this crisis.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#128 » by Catchall » Sat May 23, 2020 9:13 pm

Lakers fans assuming the world revolves around the Lakers and that if the season that's been botched by a pandemic doesn't continue it must be a conspiracy to prevent Lebron from having a shot at a championship. Lol.

Look at it this way, if the season is cancelled Lebron won't lose in the Finals again this year, or lose before the Finals.

Besides, the Lakers don't have enough shooting to be clear favorites in a matchup with the Clippers, and I'd have them as underdogs against the Bucks.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#129 » by kinste » Sat May 23, 2020 9:17 pm

I really don't understand people who want to cancel the season. So you want to start over again next season and again play 82 meaningless games :crazy:

The Bundesliga has had it's second matchday after the lockdown today and it's going great. The NBA can do the same.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#130 » by chitownsalesmen » Sat May 23, 2020 10:21 pm

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Nah. My response wasn't directed only to one side. It was directed to the US as a whole. I do believe that the politicization started from the US administration itself, though.


Sure didn't seem like it, seemed like you where all for it until one side got caught in the crossfire.

WEIRD.


All for what? The politicization? No, even back in March I was saying that this isn't an issue that should be politicized. Criticizing an administration for failing to do what it's supposed to do in a time of crisis isn't politicization, imo.


All for slandering the right but as soon as the sacred calf dems get criticized you had an issue with it. I could be wrong, but thats how it seems you are reacting.

I don't think either political party protected Americans well. American law makers hesitated to act on COVID and when they did they didn't account for the financial burden 30-60 day stay at home orders would, are and will continue to have on the average american, and small businesses. To put this entire crisis at the feet of the trump administration while not wholly incorrect doesn't paint the clear view of how little the Democrats went to bat for the American people in their hour of need.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#131 » by nzahir » Sat May 23, 2020 10:39 pm

What happens to the championship parade?

Say the Lakers win it all, do they host it next year? How would fans even feel celebrating a ring 1 year later?

What if the Clippers win it next year and can host a parade. Would be weird
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Post#132 » by Nuntius » Sat May 23, 2020 10:44 pm

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Sure didn't seem like it, seemed like you where all for it until one side got caught in the crossfire.

WEIRD.


All for what? The politicization? No, even back in March I was saying that this isn't an issue that should be politicized. Criticizing an administration for failing to do what it's supposed to do in a time of crisis isn't politicization, imo.


All for slandering the right but as soon as the sacred calf dems get criticized you had an issue with it. I could be wrong, but thats how it seems you are reacting.


No, I didn't. My politics are far removed from the Democratic Party's politics.

chitownsalesmen wrote:I don't think either political party protected Americans well. American law makers hesitated to act on COVID and when they did they didn't account for the financial burden 30-60 day stay at home orders would, are and will continue to have on the average american, and small businesses. To put this entire crisis at the feet of the trump administration while not wholly incorrect doesn't paint the clear view of how little the Democrats went to bat for the American people in their hour of need.


And this is where we disagree. When a government **** up, I put the blame solely on that government, not in the opposition. The opposition usually doesn't have enough power to alter the government's response. When I criticized the US government for its involvement in the Syrian Civil War, I wasn't criticizing the Republican opposition, I was criticizing the Democratic administration. Criticizing the opposition for the government's response doesn't make sense to me.
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Post#133 » by chitownsalesmen » Sun May 24, 2020 12:08 am

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All for what? The politicization? No, even back in March I was saying that this isn't an issue that should be politicized. Criticizing an administration for failing to do what it's supposed to do in a time of crisis isn't politicization, imo.


All for slandering the right but as soon as the sacred calf dems get criticized you had an issue with it. I could be wrong, but thats how it seems you are reacting.


No, I didn't. My politics are far removed from the Democratic Party's politics.

chitownsalesmen wrote:I don't think either political party protected Americans well. American law makers hesitated to act on COVID and when they did they didn't account for the financial burden 30-60 day stay at home orders would, are and will continue to have on the average american, and small businesses. To put this entire crisis at the feet of the trump administration while not wholly incorrect doesn't paint the clear view of how little the Democrats went to bat for the American people in their hour of need.


And this is where we disagree. When a government **** up, I put the blame solely on that government, not in the opposition. The opposition usually doesn't have enough power to alter the government's response. When I criticized the US government for its involvement in the Syrian Civil War, I wasn't criticizing the Republican opposition, I was criticizing the Democratic administration. Criticizing the opposition for the government's response doesn't make sense to me.


Yeah the democrats were purposing and passed pretty weak sauce bills for the average person, while still HUGELY generous to the corporations. Your right we do disagree I'm total glad to blame them for purposing and passing s**t bills despite whatever silliness trump is doing, they could have still done more for the american people even if they where forced by the gop to abandon said bills.
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Post#134 » by slick_watts » Sun May 24, 2020 12:15 am

i can't speak for anyone else, but i want to cancel the season because i don't want next season to be affected simply because they want to squeeze this season in. also- imagine if they re-start the season and then have to suspend it again. oh, the humanity.
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Post#135 » by chitownsalesmen » Sun May 24, 2020 12:26 am

slick_watts wrote:i can't speak for anyone else, but i want to cancel the season because i don't want next season to be affected simply because they want to squeeze this season in. also- imagine if they re-start the season and then have to suspend it again. oh, the humanity.



so conspiracy theory time, i don't think that'll happen even if a handful of players catch it.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#136 » by twyzted » Sun May 24, 2020 1:21 am

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Hellcrooner wrote:Because they want Lakers and Lebron to waste 1 year of their title window.


Or they could also be Lakers fans not wanting to see the season play out because it could mean LeBron coming up short again and maybe choking against the Clippers or Bucks?


Lebron has beaten every east coast team in a series the past 9 years while the Bucks havent even sniff the finals. Also Lebron is the most clutch playoff performer of all time....he finally had a decent team this year instead of trash. I'm sure laker fans would like to see the Lakers play...who the hell wants to waste a year as the #1 seed with the GOAT on your team?


He is not the most clutch playoff performer of all time.
And finally had a decent team? What he has the most stacked or 2nd most stacked team since 10/11 outside of last year.

A guy who shoots averages 5fga. 1 assist and 1 turnover with 1.8 fta in the 4th quarter of the finals is not best clutch performer of all time.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#137 » by Coachcavplaya23 » Sun May 24, 2020 1:47 am

chitownsalesmen wrote:
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All for slandering the right but as soon as the sacred calf dems get criticized you had an issue with it. I could be wrong, but thats how it seems you are reacting.


No, I didn't. My politics are far removed from the Democratic Party's politics.

chitownsalesmen wrote:I don't think either political party protected Americans well. American law makers hesitated to act on COVID and when they did they didn't account for the financial burden 30-60 day stay at home orders would, are and will continue to have on the average american, and small businesses. To put this entire crisis at the feet of the trump administration while not wholly incorrect doesn't paint the clear view of how little the Democrats went to bat for the American people in their hour of need.


And this is where we disagree. When a government **** up, I put the blame solely on that government, not in the opposition. The opposition usually doesn't have enough power to alter the government's response. When I criticized the US government for its involvement in the Syrian Civil War, I wasn't criticizing the Republican opposition, I was criticizing the Democratic administration. Criticizing the opposition for the government's response doesn't make sense to me.


Yeah the democrats were purposing and passed pretty weak sauce bills for the average person, while still HUGELY generous to the corporations. Your right we do disagree I'm total glad to blame them for purposing and passing s**t bills despite whatever silliness trump is doing, they could have still done more for the american people even if they where forced by the gop to abandon said bills.


I will back this. Democrats do not give a **** about the people. They are corrupt as well.

Also the governor here in NJ is an idiot. He is a democrat btw
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#138 » by SAKURABA216 » Sun May 24, 2020 3:18 am

Hellcrooner wrote:Because they want Lakers and Lebron to waste 1 year of their title window.


I'm not a huge Lakers or Lebron fan, but you guys can go ahead and have the damn title. Kobe dying this year was enough for me. A couple months later and we found out Gobert, Donavan Mitchell, and KD all had Covid-19 and KAT's mom died as well. Patrick Ewing now has it and Jerry Sloan just died of unrelated causes. The point is there's just been so much sad news in the NBA not to mention the rest of the world. I would be ok with them waiting to play when a vaccine comes out and canceling the rest of the season if need be. The NBA would never be the same again if a bunch of players got sick by trying to restart the league too soon. I would like to think that human decency means a lot more to most people than their sports fandom.
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Re: Why do people want to cancel rest of the season? 

Post#139 » by Chuck Diesel » Sun May 24, 2020 4:50 am

Gotta love all the simpletons equating the risk associated with essential tasks like going to the pharmacy to starting up an NBA season that’ll put thousands of unnecessary people in more immediate danger than they would’ve been. Don’t wanna hear another peep from the league about how progressive they are. This is some Dark Ages ****.
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Post#140 » by wang000hk » Sun May 24, 2020 7:36 am

Because it is the right thing to do.
The league would be suspended again when even one guy got tested positive.
What is the **** point then?

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