The Ringer: Top 5 NBA Executives and Coaches

[dhsilv2]

Still crazy to look back that Masai turned Demar and Valanciunas (+Poetl, Delon Wright) into Kawhi and Marc Gasol (and Danny green).

Both trades were absolute fleecings. Val has been good for Memphis and the trade made sense for them, but Gasol was still expected to fetch better value than that.

Anyone watching the spurs close enough to judge Jakob Poeltl? Stats are pretty nasty and the on - off is awesome as well. Given his low minutes there has to be an issue here, but the guy grades out as a potential stud if he can sustain that for 30 minutes a game.

[Forte IV]

Im kinda shocked Morey is #2

[dhsilv2]

Im kinda shocked Morey is #2

Hard to argue with his success.

Year Percentage
2008 67.1%
2009 64.6%
2010 51.2%
2011 52.4%
2012 51.5%
2013 54.9%
2014 65.9%
2015 68.3%
2016 50.0%
2017 67.1%
2018 79.3%
2019 64.6%
2020 62.5%

[psman2]

Im kinda shocked Morey is #2

Are you a China bot?

[CIN-C-STAR]

Still crazy to look back that Masai turned Demar and Valanciunas (+Poetl, Delon Wright) into Kawhi and Marc Gasol (and Danny green).

Both trades were absolute fleecings. Val has been good for Memphis and the trade made sense for them, but Gasol was still expected to fetch better value than that.

Anyone watching the spurs close enough to judge Jakob Poeltl? Stats are pretty nasty and the on - off is awesome as well. Given his low minutes there has to be an issue here, but the guy grades out as a potential stud if he can sustain that for 30 minutes a game.

His advanced stats are likely overselling him a bit because he usually is playing against bench units and his usage is somewhat matchup dependent, but he is an elite rim protector and not as bad on the perimeter as one might think considering he looks kind stiff.
On offense he provides no spacing whatsoever as he doesn't shoot 3s and his mid range isn't a weapon defenses concern themselves with even a little bit, but he's a great screen setter and seems content to be a roll man and put-back guy.
I really hope the Spurs lock him up long term for a reasonable deal. His game is more old school than modern, but I think he's a great fit for a young perimeter attacking offense like the Spurs seem to be building toward.

[CIN-C-STAR]

How could this list not have anyone from the Warriors? Sure we've just had a **** season (due to injury), but why should that erase the last 5 years of total dominance?

Your team just traded for Andrew Wiggins and then finished dead last, somehow doing significantly worse than the Knicks or Cavs, and you think your coach and/or team executive should be ranked top 5?

[GQ Hot Dog]

How could this list not have anyone from the Warriors? Sure we've just had a **** season (due to injury), but why should that erase the last 5 years of total dominance?

When we're back to competing for chips next season and beyond those with a shred of integrity will admit they overlooked the Warriors team, coaching and FO due to an abundance of wishful thinking.

Those without any integrity will be claiming the Warriors success was and still is entirely due to luck and nobody could have seen it coming.

[jimmy keys]

Seems about right. Also the number 1 medical staff lead by Alex McKechnie. Plus being the only international team makes their jobs that much more difficult. They deserve all the credit they receive.

[Jabroni Lames]

Anyway, back to why this was posted --- yeah OP the Raptors have sick leadership. I hope they can keep this together long term like the Spurs managed with Buford and Pop. I would agree that Ujiri is the best in the business, and Nurse belongs in the discussion(He is my clear COY this year, but I still have respect for some of the guys who have done it for longer--Pop,Spo,Doc, Carlisle).

Raptors are proving to be one of the premier franchises in the Association for sure.

I feel like Erik Spoelstra is massively overrated. When you take away Lebron, he coaches his teams up to a borderline playoff level, at best, sometimes lottery. This, despite the Heat's vaunted player development system. Spo and the Heat have bounced back this year, but that's mainly because of Jimmy Butler, who's elevated 3 franchises (Bulls, Wolves, Sixers and now Heat), so it's not really because of Spo.

Nick Nurse lost Kawhi AND Danny Green.... 2 top notch multi-position, wing defenders & starters, who are also deadly 3-pt shooters... and yet the Raptors have somehow improved this year? That's what I would have expected to see from Spoelstra.

[Richard4444]

No Knicks names!!!

I am shocked

[Middle Child]

Hmm

Coaches- Pop, Kerr, Carlisle, Stevens, Nurse, Spo and Budenholzer in some order

GMs- Myers, Ujiri, Buford, Nelson, The fat dude in Miami what's his name

[Texas Chuck]

When we're back to competing for chips next season and beyond those with a shred of integrity will admit they overlooked the Warriors team, coaching and FO due to an abundance of wishful thinking.

Those without any integrity will be claiming the Warriors success was and still is entirely due to luck and nobody could have seen it coming.

yeah those definitely seem like the only two possibilities....

[GQ Hot Dog]

How could this list not have anyone from the Warriors? Sure we've just had a **** season (due to injury), but why should that erase the last 5 years of total dominance?

Your team just traded for Andrew Wiggins and then finished dead last, somehow doing significantly worse than the Knicks or Cavs, and you think your coach and/or team executive should be ranked top 5?

Myers gets exec of the year twice in the last 5 years and yet somehow he's not top 5?

Lawrence Frank is top 5 even though everyone knows that Jerry West is the decision maker in the org?

Daryl Morey is 2nd presiding over a capped out roster of players that have never and will never get over the hump and he's traded away 5 of his team's next 7 1st round picks?

These lists are mindless garbage.

[GQ Hot Dog]

When we're back to competing for chips next season and beyond those with a shred of integrity will admit they overlooked the Warriors team, coaching and FO due to an abundance of wishful thinking.

Those without any integrity will be claiming the Warriors success was and still is entirely due to luck and nobody could have seen it coming.

yeah those definitely seem like the only two possibilities....

What else accounts for willfully ignoring the league's most successful franchise of the last decade? People trying to wish the Warriors decline into existence without any rational basis for it being so.

[PistolPeteJR]

How could this list not have anyone from the Warriors? Sure we've just had a **** season (due to injury), but why should that erase the last 5 years of total dominance?

When we're back to competing for chips next season and beyond those with a shred of integrity will admit they overlooked the Warriors team, coaching and FO due to an abundance of wishful thinking.

Those without any integrity will be claiming the Warriors success was and still is entirely due to luck and nobody could have seen it coming.

So the Warriors FO belong on that list TODAY thanks to Jerry West, who’s no longer there, calling the shots on drafting three guys circa 7-10 years ago + signings like Iggy? Or do they belong on there thanks to a super spike in the cap and capitalizing on KD’s super soft nature?

[bisme37]

This made me realize that whoever owns the Raps should be getting a lot of credit but I don't even know who it is. Seems to be a group of people from what I just read by googling, but whoever is the managing owner who made call on the Masai and Nurse hires should be better known and get his due credit.

[Texas Chuck]

When we're back to competing for chips next season and beyond those with a shred of integrity will admit they overlooked the Warriors team, coaching and FO due to an abundance of wishful thinking.

Those without any integrity will be claiming the Warriors success was and still is entirely due to luck and nobody could have seen it coming.

yeah those definitely seem like the only two possibilities....

What else accounts for willfully ignoring the league's most successful franchise of the last decade? People trying to wish the Warriors decline into existence without any rational basis for it being so.

Well of course many of us want them to decline. We are fans of teams competing with them. That doesn't mean we have no integrity.

And believe me nobody is ignoring them. We just don't have your myopic focus on them, which again seems really reasonable.

You seem to feel persecuted here and I assure you the Warriors aren't victims of some conspiracy of hate. It's going to be okay.

[cupcakesnake]

Still crazy to look back that Masai turned Demar and Valanciunas (+Poetl, Delon Wright) into Kawhi and Marc Gasol (and Danny green).

Both trades were absolute fleecings. Val has been good for Memphis and the trade made sense for them, but Gasol was still expected to fetch better value than that.

Anyone watching the spurs close enough to judge Jakob Poeltl? Stats are pretty nasty and the on - off is awesome as well. Given his low minutes there has to be an issue here, but the guy grades out as a potential stud if he can sustain that for 30 minutes a game.

His advanced stats are likely overselling him a bit because he usually is playing against bench units and his usage is somewhat matchup dependent, but he is an elite rim protector and not as bad on the perimeter as one might think considering he looks kind stiff.
On offense he provides no spacing whatsoever as he doesn't shoot 3s and his mid range isn't a weapon defenses concern themselves with even a little bit, but he's a great screen setter and seems content to be a roll man and put-back guy.
I really hope the Spurs lock him up long term for a reasonable deal. His game is more old school than modern, but I think he's a great fit for a young perimeter attacking offense like the Spurs seem to be building toward.

Poetl has excellent feet for a guy that tall. In San Antonio, he's quietly become a bit more solid than he was in Toronto: stronger rebounding and passing to compliment his rim protection and surprising switchability. He should be a started in this league, but he's in a pretty crappy situation in San Antonio, who needs Aldridge on the floor to provide spacing for their army of poor shooting guards. We should get to see some extended minutes from him in the bubble with Aldridge out injured.

[The_Hater]

Any list about GMs or coaches that doesn't include LeBron or Rich Paul is invalid.

sigh this tired old trope again?

Do star players and agents have tons of power? Of course they do. Are they coaches or GM's? Of course not.

Come on Chuck, that was funny.

[Jabroni Lames]

How could this list not have anyone from the Warriors? Sure we've just had a **** season (due to injury), but why should that erase the last 5 years of total dominance?

Your team just traded for Andrew Wiggins and then finished dead last, somehow doing significantly worse than the Knicks or Cavs, and you think your coach and/or team executive should be ranked top 5?

Myers gets exec of the year twice in the last 5 years and yet somehow he's not top 5?

Lawrence Frank is top 5 even though everyone knows that Jerry West is the decision maker in the org?

Daryl Morey is 2nd presiding over a capped out roster of players that have never and will never get over the hump and he's traded away 5 of his team's next 7 1st round picks?

These lists are mindless garbage.

Lawrence Frank should get very little credit for Kawhi. There was no recruitment at all.... Kawhi basically had his mind made up: Clippers or Lakers. He just wanted to play in his hometown and that's been consistent since he forced his way out of San Antonio. And it's debatable whether the Lakers even had a chance for a couple reasons: (a) Kawhi not wanting to team up with Lebron & (b) Steve Ballmer depositing untold millions into Uncle Dennis' (a banking executive) off-shore bank accounts.

The main credit I would give Lawrence Frank is/was accumulating the assets to allow OKC to shake down the Clips to acquire Paul George - one of the all-stars that Kawhi wanted to team with. PG13 or not, I still think Kawhi is going to the Clippers, hell or high water.