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Every night it’s the same thing. Completely controls the game and makes winning play after winning play. Clutch shot after clutch shot. A literal puppet master who is the best player on the floor 9 out of 10 nights.

He almost outperformed AD and LeBron tonight by himself.

He better make all-nba this year.

He’s a top 10 point guard

Decade is too long. Top 10 is probably too high. But in the last 5+ years he has been top 5 in leadership, and impact on winning and culture. Best PG in the East. I do not want to hear about players that play one end of the court and have not carried a franchise to relevance.

Whatever specific rankings or timespan you want to use, Lowry has been criminally underrated for a long time.

Partly because he plays in Canada, but it's due his style too. Often times he's not being flashy while still providing extreme on-court value.

decade is too long. But ya, he's been a top 10 player since like 2015 for most seasons

JRoy wrote:He’s a top 10 point guard

Of all time?

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His style sucks which is why he has been underrated. But yeah if you only care abt winning Lowry is the guy to keep.

mademan wrote:decade is too long. But ya, he's been a top 10 player since like 2015 for most seasons

It’s been a seven year run so far. I admittedly thought it was eight when I made the OP but still think that qualifies as almost a decade.

Showtime23 wrote:His style sucks which is why he has been underrated. But yeah if you only care abt winning Lowry is the guy to keep.

Winning is stupid. I much prefer point guards who dribble the piss out of the ball to try and get themselves a highlight on sportscenter, refuse to defend, bitch about their coaches and teammates, and eventually erode locker rooms to the point where fan bases that once rode the guys jock would rather trade him for a bag of rocks.

He doesn't get credit because he's not flashy and doesn't put up video game offensive numbers. He's an old school player. "He makes winning plays" best describes him I think.

He has actually been top 5, but way to cater to the clueless masses of the General Board.

6 foot tall Kyle Lowry had 14 rebounds tonight in 35 minutes. 21 foot tall Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard and Javale McGee combined for 15 rebounds in 52 minutes, Nobody is as tough or determined as Kyle Lowry.

And1+2 wrote:He has actually been top 5, but way to cater to the clueless masses of the General Board.

I originally put top five but then changed it to ten because the thread would have devolved into people quibbling over the 5th best player as opposed to the 7th which isn’t the point I was trying to get across. Although I do feel there is a strong argument for him to sneak into the 4 or 5 spot behind LeBron/Curry/Kawhi.

No need to acknowledge something that isn’t true

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jaybiddyforeal wrote:

And1+2 wrote:He has actually been top 5, but way to cater to the clueless masses of the General Board.

I originally put top five but then changed it to ten because the thread would have devolved into people quibbling over the 5th best player as opposed to the 7th which isn’t the point I was trying to get across. Although I do feel there is a strong argument for him to sneak into the 4 or 5 spot behind LeBron/Curry/Kawhi.

There’s not. Like not even close.

He's been a league leader in charges taken for a while now, top 10 3-point shooter in the league, one of the best rebounders at the PG position, and the constant pressure he puts on the opposition is great. Lowry is absolutely masterful at taking the right shot at the right time. Extending a neck and neck game from 5 points to 8 can be a back breaker. That's what happened today Vs. LAL. Toronto took the motivation and energy out of them with Lowry's 3 and 3 shot foul.

Lowry has been the Raptors best player since 2015. For a single season I would take him over Westbrook, Paul, Walker, Lillard, Wall, Simmons, Young, and anyone else other than Curry. At 6 feet he impacts the game way more than you would expect.

lobosloboslobos wrote:6 foot tall Kyle Lowry had 14 rebounds tonight in 35 minutes. 21 foot tall Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard and Javale McGee combined for 15 rebounds in 52 minutes, Nobody is as tough or determined as Kyle Lowry.

He actually had 15. He grabbed an offensive board while up 15 points with a minute and a half left and got pushed out of bounds with no call. The official scorer credited it as a team rebound for LA.

The game went to commercial break right after that play. Lowry was so mad about the non call he got T’ed up during the break. Arguing a push on an offensive rebound in transition while up 15 with 90 seconds left. I love the guy

He's been a top 10-15 player in terms of impact on his team since arriving to Toronto (hence the winning), but not even close if we're rating it by skill/talent.

Raptor fans will always appreciate him, but the average NBA fan who sees a non-flashy game, and who remembers all of the Raptors stinkers, will think this is an outrageous take.

Dupp wrote:

jaybiddyforeal wrote:

And1+2 wrote:He has actually been top 5, but way to cater to the clueless masses of the General Board.

I originally put top five but then changed it to ten because the thread would have devolved into people quibbling over the 5th best player as opposed to the 7th which isn’t the point I was trying to get across. Although I do feel there is a strong argument for him to sneak into the 4 or 5 spot behind LeBron/Curry/Kawhi.

There’s not. Like not even close.

If you are considering the only that matters which is doing things to win basketball games then yes, there is...