LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern

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Re: LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern 

Post#21 » by LipSkinMatter » Mon Aug 3, 2020 5:17 pm

Statlanta wrote:He's definitely not gonna "turn it on" whatever that means.

He was granted a great spacing system in Cleveland which supplemented his numbers.

Now he's given an all-time great defensive cast and coaching and again his defensive numbers are supplemented.

Maybe LeBron is more a system player than the media influencers are letting on....


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Re: LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern 

Post#22 » by Statlanta » Mon Aug 3, 2020 5:23 pm

LipSkinMatter wrote:
Statlanta wrote:He's definitely not gonna "turn it on" whatever that means.

He was granted a great spacing system in Cleveland which supplemented his numbers.

Now he's given an all-time great defensive cast and coaching and again his defensive numbers are supplemented.

Maybe LeBron is more a system player than the media influencers are letting on....


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Re: LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern 

Post#23 » by LivingLegend » Mon Aug 3, 2020 5:34 pm

Optms wrote:The only concern is that it may take a while for him to get going. These weren't an issue 4 months ago before the shutdown when he was running at full MVP level form and he was destroying the league. People need stop pretending Lebron is at full strength right now, he's not.


I think its more due to the fact that at his age, its hard to come to a abrupt stop and then get it started back up again into midseason form. Its 2 games, he will be fine--I just think that its due to his age his engine needs a little longer nowadays to get going again full speed.

I do know he is going to need all 10 of these seeding games to work his way back into form.
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Re: LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern 

Post#24 » by Suprasc1 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:02 pm

LeBron can still give you 50pts or 25-8-8 in the playoffs. The game just has to matter to see what you're looking for
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Re: LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern 

Post#25 » by SAKURABA216 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:07 pm

As a Pistons fan and Cavs hater, I have learned never to count Lebron out. This is such a strange situation for everyone and I am sure that once the games start getting more intense we will see the re-emergence of God-mode/Play-off Lebron who is one of the scariest players in NBA history.
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Post#26 » by thebigbird » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:10 pm

Are some posters just going to pretend he wasn’t balling out after the all-star break? They just had a 4.5 month layoff. That’s an entire offseason. It’s going to take a bit to get back into it. That’s what the 8 games are for.
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Post#27 » by levon » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:11 pm

This happens literally every year. He's managing his own ramp-up. He's spoken about this extensively.

Also, 35% from 3 is solid? And what's the average mid-range% league wide? How many does he even take?
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Post#28 » by Jazz9 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:12 pm

By his own admission the break was detrimental to him.
When everybody was talking about rest and fresh legs he was saying he was in great form and that he'd pratically have to start from scratch conditioning wise and it shows.
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Re: LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern 

Post#29 » by thebigbird » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:12 pm

LipSkinMatter wrote:
Statlanta wrote:He's definitely not gonna "turn it on" whatever that means.

He was granted a great spacing system in Cleveland which supplemented his numbers.

Now he's given an all-time great defensive cast and coaching and again his defensive numbers are supplemented.

Maybe LeBron is more a system player than the media influencers are letting on....


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Post#30 » by Flash Falcon X » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:26 pm

HypeMode wrote:We had this same exact thread every year since 2015. And every single year come playoff time, LeBron proves how foolish you are for doubting him. Yall buried the man 20 times already and he has come back alive 21 times.


Huh?

Last time LeBron was in the Playoffs he needed 7 games to beat Oladipo and then 7 games to beat a rookie Jayson Tatum. Left the East right when they started getting good. :lol: And the main reason the Lakers are so good right now is because Anthony Davis is on the squad.

People always give LeBron a pass in the Finals because he lost to stacked Warriors teams, but he still would have lost to any other West team like the Spurs (with Kawhi) or the Rockets.
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Re: LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern 

Post#31 » by Lockdown504090 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:32 pm

HypeMode wrote:We had this same exact thread every year since 2015. And every single year come playoff time, LeBron proves how foolish you are for doubting him. Yall buried the man 20 times already and he has come back alive 21 times.

I totally agree with you, but OP has a legit concern here. This is the first time he isnt playing with 3 GREAT shooters on the court with him in like 10 years. and if they arent going to have that, AD needs to step the hell up. If the raptors are doubling hard, and rotating crash the offensive glass, he had little kids boxing him out for christ sake. why put a bunch of big dudes on if they arent going to rebound.
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Re: LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern 

Post#32 » by trueballer7 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:44 pm

Whats the concern? He's been the same player for 20 years, cant work double teams, shoots 35% 7ft and further from the basket, cant post up, doesnt play off the ball much. Without 3pt shooters around him, he'd have Kobe's scoring efficiency.
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Post#33 » by phanman » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:59 pm

Only been 2 games but the spacing has been pretty horrendous for the Lakers:
- 11/36 from 3pt against the Clippers: combined 3/17 from Davis, KCP, Green, Caruso and Waiters
- 10/40 against the Raptors: combined 3/25 from KCP, Green, Caruso, Waiters, Morris and Smith

I think playing with two bigs usually is detrimental to his half court scoring as he really doesn't get the opportunity to utilize his dangerous post game.
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Post#34 » by scrabbarista » Mon Aug 3, 2020 8:13 pm

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Post#35 » by TheGOATWill » Mon Aug 3, 2020 8:14 pm

Death, taxes, playoff Lebron, my daughter waking up at 6 am. Lebron is auditioning the playoff rotation.
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Re: LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern 

Post#36 » by LipSkinMatter » Mon Aug 3, 2020 8:21 pm

Statlanta wrote:
LipSkinMatter wrote:
Statlanta wrote:He's definitely not gonna "turn it on" whatever that means.

He was granted a great spacing system in Cleveland which supplemented his numbers.

Now he's given an all-time great defensive cast and coaching and again his defensive numbers are supplemented.

Maybe LeBron is more a system player than the media influencers are letting on....


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Post#37 » by thebigbird » Mon Aug 3, 2020 8:38 pm

trueballer7 wrote:Whats the concern? He's been the same player for 20 years, cant work double teams, shoots 35% 7ft and further from the basket, cant post up, doesnt play off the ball much. Without 3pt shooters around him, he'd have Kobe's scoring efficiency.

Amazing he’s been able to accomplish everything that he has with all those limitations!
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Post#38 » by levon » Mon Aug 3, 2020 8:53 pm

For example, Lebron was hardly looking to score in the scrimmage games. I know he's had a history of mysteriously disappearing and defenses not getting enough credit for how they play him, but there's also been an extensive history of people (including me) writing him off and then he does GOAT things. If you don't think there's on-court load management going on here, you're not watching enough of him or just hoping for his dropoff, or both.
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Re: LeBron's Halfcourt Scoring is a Major Concern 

Post#39 » by trueballer7 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 9:17 pm

thebigbird wrote:
trueballer7 wrote:Whats the concern? He's been the same player for 20 years, cant work double teams, shoots 35% 7ft and further from the basket, cant post up, doesnt play off the ball much. Without 3pt shooters around him, he'd have Kobe's scoring efficiency.

Amazing he’s been able to accomplish everything that he has with all those limitations!

Real groundbreaking stuff, big guys with limitations accomplish mucho things in the NBA. It seems like being closer to the rim than the rest, can be helpful in basketball
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Post#40 » by NyKnicks1714 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 9:29 pm

trueballer7 wrote:
thebigbird wrote:
trueballer7 wrote:Whats the concern? He's been the same player for 20 years, cant work double teams, shoots 35% 7ft and further from the basket, cant post up, doesnt play off the ball much. Without 3pt shooters around him, he'd have Kobe's scoring efficiency.

Amazing he’s been able to accomplish everything that he has with all those limitations!

Real groundbreaking stuff, big guys with limitations accomplish mucho things in the NBA. It seems like being closer to the rim than the rest, can be helpful in basketball


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