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I understand people have their favorite players and all but the overrating has got to stop. Calling him the 2nd best point guard of all time is flat out ridiculous. Steph is great yes but it’s debatable if he’s a top 5 point guard of all time. Definitely not in the top 3.
Greatest shooter yea but let’s not get that mixed up with greatest point guard of all time. Another thing 2 of his rings he won as a sidekick to Durant in the Finals. Kobe haters say the same thing about Kobe first 3 rings so I’m saying the same thing about Curry’s last two.

As far as point guards go he can’t breathe the same air as Magic or the Big O. IT(Zeke) played with less talent and against tougher teams and won 2 rings. Steve Nash would have multiple rings in this era and would be a overall better point guard than him in this era.

Here’s a List of other points guards that’s better

Magic
Big O
IT (Zeke)

DEBATABLES list

Steve Nash
Prime Derrick Rose
John Stockton
Kyrie
Dame Lillard
Allen Iverson
Prime Gary Payton
Prime Chris paul
Chauncey Billups (Pistons run)
Walt Frazier
Jason Kidd
Russell Westbrook

These same people who say Curry is the 2nd greatest pg of all time also said he was better than Durant and Lebron so that shows you how far their intelligence goes

Curry is a system player who benefitted from the league not enforcing moving screens. He's not a top 5 or top 3 in any list .

IT Might be the most overrated PG of all time, Curry is also overrated but not nearly as much based on your list.

lol

Pharmcat wrote:Curry is a system player who benefitted from the league not enforcing moving screens. He's not a top 5 or top 3 in any list .

Preach on, preach on. He is the same as Nash -a player that can thrive in a specific basketball environment, rules and team.

Magic, Zeke, Walt Frazier, Big O, Kidd, Cousy, Stockton, GP are all above him. Then you have Nate Archibald, Billups, Nash, Westbrook, CP3 alongside Curry in the second cohort...maybe add Slater Martin in here to have another OG.

Oh, and I have AI3 as SG.

And people calling Zeke overrated, we are not speaking about GM skills here folks He was 1 bad call away from THREE PEAT in the era of Bird, Magic and Jordan.

Would take Magic, Oscar, Nash, West (if you consider him a PG), and maybe Paul over Curry.

So I have him 4th-6th depending on West (if he's a PG) and Paul (his longevity is better at this point, although I don't think he peaked as high).

I'll take Curry over everyone else and not think twice about it.

You're right. The Warriors are so unfortunately to be stucked with him and an overrated Draymond.

Pharmcat wrote:Curry is a system player who benefitted from the league not enforcing moving screens. He's not a top 5 or top 3 in any list .

Curry is the system.

Whatever makes you feel better ... sigh.

Two time MVP...the only unanimous MVP in history. 3 time champion...best shooter of all time with equal passing and handles to Zeke and a much better shooter than Magic. But let's ignore all that because he playing in a team concept (unselfish) and is great running and shooting off screens.

Must take a lot of energy to argue a guy is not top 3 point guard in the history of the league....

ILOVEIT wrote:Whatever makes you feel better ... sigh.

Two time MVP...the only unanimous MVP in history. 3 time champion...best shooter of all time with equal passing and handles to Zeke and a much better shooter than Magic. But let's ignore all that because he playing in a team concept (unselfish) and is great running and shooting off screens.

Must take a lot of energy to argue a guy is not top 3 point guard in the history of the league....

I don't think any player (except maybe Lebron) has made so many fans salty. It speaks volumes about how absolutely dominant he was. Watching Steph dominate your favourite team for half a decade must do a number on a fan's psyche.

I easily take Magic, Oscar, Stockton, Thomas, Paul over Curry. I don’t even think twice tbh. He’s got a ways to go still.

FWIW, a player CAN lead a revolutionary change to the game and not be on Mt.Rushmore. Think about that.

He's way overrated. The league essentially made him when they realized that a little guy making 3's attracts the casual fans to the product. One of the most manufactured superstars ever

Curry is the undisputed number 2 PG of all time in my book.

I've never seen a player so undersized dominate and control entire games like he has. He's got 3 rings, 2 league MVPs including the first ever unanimous one. He may be leading one of the greatest dynasties of all time... hurt a bit by KD coming in and grabbing those FMVPs, but there should be no argument as to how influential Curry has been on the court and on the game of basketball in general. A legend already and there's no PG outside of Magic who has had the impact that he's had on this league.

Simple he has team success on par with Michael Jordan and Bill Russell, with a wider pool of players.

73-9 and 16-1 as most likely the best player on both teams is kinda legendary.

The only thing that holds him back is individual dominance.

I would assume most that have him in their top 3 also have him in their top 5.

Curry is #2 for me. Didn't see Oscar play. His stats are impressive. But so are Russel Westbrooks and there is zero way I am taking Westbrook over Curry. LOL at Isiah Thomas. Is that a joke?

I like Stockton more than a lot of people. But Curry was/is a game changer. I have him firmly #2. However he has a lot of career left and his skill set is probably going to age well. I could see him winning another ring as the focal point and one more in a lesser role. I don't think he can overtake Magic but Magic's career was cut tragically short.

Buckets22 wrote:

Pharmcat wrote:Curry is a system player who benefitted from the league not enforcing moving screens. He's not a top 5 or top 3 in any list .

Preach on, preach on. He is the same as Nash -a player that can thrive in a specific basketball environment, rules and team.

Magic, Zeke, Walt Frazier, Big O, Kidd, Cousy, Stockton, GP are all above him. Then you have Nate Archibald, Billups, Nash, Westbrook, CP3 alongside Curry in the second cohort...maybe add Slater Martin in here to have another OG.

Oh, and I have AI3 as SG.

And people calling Zeke overrated, we are not speaking about GM skills here folks He was 1 bad call away from THREE PEAT in the era of Bird, Magic and Jordan.

I disagree with that, as I believe Nash would have thrived in any era. He did start his career pre-hand-check era and is an amazing playmaker which is always an asset.

I'll be very honest I can't see Curry thriving to the same extent in a non very heavy 3-point perimeter oriented league. I have a hard time picturing who he'd have been in the 90s, which i don't say about most superstars who I do believe transcend eras.

Recency bias.

But in reality back several months ago when there was a top 5 point guards all-time thread I argued that in reality Steph Curry isn't really a point guard. He's a shooting guard who has played next to other shooting guards his entire career who had less playmaking ability than he does so he's been in the point guard spot his entire career. He has a shooting guard's skillset. He plays like a shooting guard and has the ball in his hands much less than a point guard typically does.

If you count him as a shooting guard he is firmly the 4th or 5th best shooting guard ever depending on how you view Jerry West, who I think is a shooting guard but some people consider a point guard.

Jordan, Kobe, West, Wade, Curry

If you take Curry as a point guard and West as a shooting guard, then he's the 5th best point guard ever behind Magic, Oscar, Chris Paul and Cousy; but is only marginally ahead of Stockton, Kidd, Nash and Payton.

PistolPeteJR wrote:I easily take Magic, Oscar, Stockton, Thomas, Paul over Curry. I don’t even think twice tbh. He’s got a ways to go still.

FWIW, a player CAN lead a revolutionary change to the game and not be on Mt.Rushmore. Think about that.

Only Magic and Zeke should be ranked higher. The rest Curry has surpassed them.

Buckets22 wrote:

Pharmcat wrote:Curry is a system player who benefitted from the league not enforcing moving screens. He's not a top 5 or top 3 in any list .

Preach on, preach on. He is the same as Nash -a player that can thrive in a specific basketball environment, rules and team.

Magic, Zeke, Walt Frazier, Big O, Kidd, Cousy, Stockton, GP are all above him. Then you have Nate Archibald, Billups, Nash, Westbrook, CP3 alongside Curry in the second cohort...maybe add Slater Martin in here to have another OG.

Oh, and I have AI3 as SG.

And people calling Zeke overrated, we are not speaking about GM skills here folks He was 1 bad call away from THREE PEAT in the era of Bird, Magic and Jordan.

BILLUPS AND CURRY IN THE SAME BREATH?!