Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble

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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#81 » by BNM » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:41 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:he changed his shot up a lot even from before the pandemic hit. He is adjusting still. I think he will be awesome next year. The final step is finishing at the rim and drawing fouls for him to be a an upper tier guard. Sky is the limit for Lonzo Ball.


If the final step is drawing fouls, the first step should be learning how to make a FT. He is a .482 career FT shooter. Shaq, a guy who was intentionally fouled with the game on the line was a career .527 FT shooter. The last thing you want coming down the stretch of a close game is a guy with the ball in his hands who has no confidence in his shot and can't make a FT.
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#82 » by BNM » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:44 pm

kenwood3333 wrote:he is basically a ricky rubio without the reality show


Until he learns how to shoot FTs, he's not even a poor man's Ricky Rubio. Rubio came into the league as a 80% FT shooter and improved over the course of his career (.841 career FT%) - and even then, he was unplayable in the 4th quarter of close games for most of his career.
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#83 » by ILOVEIT » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:47 pm

kenwood3333 wrote:he is basically a ricky rubio without the reality show


Spot on. Amazing how much "hype" plays in expectations in the NBA.
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Post#84 » by ILOVEIT » Tue Aug 11, 2020 3:58 pm

Is it just me.....or the fact that Simmons and Ball "act" like they don't care....that bothers me.

If I saw them shouting....getting pissed now and then....communicating a little more with fellow players. :(
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#85 » by PharmD » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:09 pm

DaPessimist wrote:I saw a guy in a BBB sweater a month or so ago. I actually asked him if it was Big Baller Brand because I just had to confirm. :lol:

They were giving them away down at the carwash
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#86 » by phanman » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:46 pm

Dude did not play well during the Bubble but the team was absolutely disjointed. Zion gained 50lbs and Gentry + the team forgot you have to play defense.

The potential is there though guys, just look at the 20 game stretch when Zion returned: 13.1pts, 7reb, 8.4ast, 1.8stl, 0.9blk on a 46/43/67 split or 60%TS in 35.3mpg with his usual superb defense.

The bust label is premature and indicative of a guy unable to shed a negative reputation.
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Post#87 » by dlts20 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:54 pm

Chandan wrote:what is #TMC

*I never used twitter and doesnt know how hashtag works.

I don't know where you saw it but recently it has stood for the marathon continues, in reference to the recent death of Nipsey Hussle.
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Post#88 » by Suprasc1 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:55 pm

He's not even better then Chalmers or Rubio
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#89 » by Alatan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:41 pm

phanman wrote:Dude did not play well during the Bubble but the team was absolutely disjointed. Zion gained 50lbs and Gentry + the team forgot you have to play defense.

The potential is there though guys, just look at the 20 game stretch when Zion returned: 13.1pts, 7reb, 8.4ast, 1.8stl, 0.9blk on a 46/43/67 split or 60%TS in 35.3mpg with his usual superb defense.

The bust label is premature and indicative of a guy unable to shed a negative reputation.


Negative reputation??? Kid is one of the biggest hype jobs in sports history. A bench player with the popularity of a rising superstar.
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#90 » by phanman » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:50 pm

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phanman wrote:Dude did not play well during the Bubble but the team was absolutely disjointed. Zion gained 50lbs and Gentry + the team forgot you have to play defense.

The potential is there though guys, just look at the 20 game stretch when Zion returned: 13.1pts, 7reb, 8.4ast, 1.8stl, 0.9blk on a 46/43/67 split or 60%TS in 35.3mpg with his usual superb defense.

The bust label is premature and indicative of a guy unable to shed a negative reputation.


Negative reputation??? Kid is one of the biggest hype jobs in sports history. A bench player with the popularity of a rising superstar.

Yeah and that hype afforded him the negative reputation when he has been a solid starter for the majority of the season. Remember the Pelicans were literally built around the talents of Zion, so him missing chunks of the early season and becoming obese really throws everything off.

Did he live up to the reputation of being a #2 overall pick and savior to the Lakers? Hell no, but the guy isn't a bust either. At 22yo, the fact that he managed to rebuild his 3pt jumper from 31.5% on 5.3 attempts in his first 2 seasons to 37% on 6.3 attempts is encouraging for his development when coupled with his NBA-ready defense and play-making.
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#91 » by Chandan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:55 pm

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Chandan wrote:what is #TMC

*I never used twitter and doesnt know how hashtag works.

I don't know where you saw it but recently it has stood for the marathon continues, in reference to the recent death of Nipsey Hussle.


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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#92 » by Alatan » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:03 pm

phanman wrote:
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phanman wrote:Dude did not play well during the Bubble but the team was absolutely disjointed. Zion gained 50lbs and Gentry + the team forgot you have to play defense.

The potential is there though guys, just look at the 20 game stretch when Zion returned: 13.1pts, 7reb, 8.4ast, 1.8stl, 0.9blk on a 46/43/67 split or 60%TS in 35.3mpg with his usual superb defense.

The bust label is premature and indicative of a guy unable to shed a negative reputation.


Negative reputation??? Kid is one of the biggest hype jobs in sports history. A bench player with the popularity of a rising superstar.

Yeah and that hype afforded him the negative reputation when he has been a solid starter for the majority of the season. Remember the Pelicans were literally built around the talents of Zion, so him missing chunks of the early season and becoming obese really throws everything off.

Did he live up to the reputation of being a #2 overall pick and savior to the Lakers? Hell no, but the guy isn't a bust either. At 22yo, the fact that he managed to rebuild his 3pt jumper from 31.5% on 5.3 attempts in his first 2 seasons to 37% on 6.3 attempts is encouraging for his development when coupled with his NBA-ready defense and play-making.


Zion being fat doesnt make Lonzo shoot worse than Shaq from the FT line. Face it he is a bust and a big one.
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#93 » by phanman » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:13 pm

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phanman wrote:
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Negative reputation??? Kid is one of the biggest hype jobs in sports history. A bench player with the popularity of a rising superstar.

Yeah and that hype afforded him the negative reputation when he has been a solid starter for the majority of the season. Remember the Pelicans were literally built around the talents of Zion, so him missing chunks of the early season and becoming obese really throws everything off.

Did he live up to the reputation of being a #2 overall pick and savior to the Lakers? Hell no, but the guy isn't a bust either. At 22yo, the fact that he managed to rebuild his 3pt jumper from 31.5% on 5.3 attempts in his first 2 seasons to 37% on 6.3 attempts is encouraging for his development when coupled with his NBA-ready defense and play-making.


Zion being fat doesnt make Lonzo shoot worse than Shaq from the FT line. Face it he is a bust and a big one.

He shoots 1.2 attempts a game but sure base your entire analysis on his FT struggles. :roll:
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#94 » by MrSparkle » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:14 pm

If he had any future of becoming an all-star, Lebron would’ve never let him be included in the Davis package. The FRPs and Ingram were a given (NOP had a firm price), but as far as I can tell Lakers basically had the choice of Ball vs. Kuzma, and they went with Kuzma despite the fact the Lakers have no starting caliber PG. Kuzma probably had more value last summer than Ball.

Anyway, Lebron’s a pretty good talent evaluator. He knows how to jump to the right ship. :lol:
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#95 » by meekrab » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:25 pm

phanman wrote:Dude did not play well during the Bubble but the team was absolutely disjointed. Zion gained 50lbs and Gentry + the team forgot you have to play defense.

The potential is there though guys, just look at the 20 game stretch when Zion returned: 13.1pts, 7reb, 8.4ast, 1.8stl, 0.9blk on a 46/43/67 split or 60%TS in 35.3mpg with his usual superb defense.

The bust label is premature and indicative of a guy unable to shed a negative reputation.

Every time Andrew Wiggins has a good month people say "the potential is there" too, but that doesn't make him any less of a bust either. :lol:
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#96 » by Poohdini1 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:40 pm

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NOLA was a massive disappointment in the bubble, but I don't see that as foreshadowing for next year. Zion needs to get his body right and they take it from there. Ball needs to build on what was a solid season overall.

Good to hear he knows what his weaknesses are.
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#97 » by NY 567 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:41 pm

phanman wrote:Dude did not play well during the Bubble but the team was absolutely disjointed. Zion gained 50lbs and Gentry + the team forgot you have to play defense.

The potential is there though guys, just look at the 20 game stretch when Zion returned: 13.1pts, 7reb, 8.4ast, 1.8stl, 0.9blk on a 46/43/67 split or 60%TS in 35.3mpg with his usual superb defense.

The bust label is premature and indicative of a guy unable to shed a negative reputation.

There is a higher chance that Hasheem Thabeet and Anthony Bennett find their way back into the NBA and become all stars than there is Lonzo becomes a perennial 40+ percent 3 point shooter with a TS% over 60. And his defense was worst this year than his first 2.
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#98 » by KHRICH » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:47 pm

binjumper wrote:Not an offensive player. He is still the best defender on that team.

They open trading during the shutdown to let Jrue leave the team?
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#99 » by Speedlot » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:38 am

He's still young I guess.
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Re: Lonzo Ball's Performance in the Bubble 

Post#100 » by mattao313 » Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:59 am

A big disappointment I thought this guy was gonna be good but he's pretty bad at everything besides outlet passes.
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