All Giannis does is travel, charge to the hole and can’t play in half court set. How is he in top 5 NBA players talks?

Rodwilliams · Post #1 » by **Rodwilliams** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:03 pm

Seriously this guy’s game is laughable. He’s traveling on almost every play and the ref is not calling it. He tries to force his way to the hole even when its defenders there. Taking big steps is not a skill to me. The crazy part is that you only notice this about his game during the playoffs when the game slows down.

Post #2 » by **The Rebel** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:05 pm

Some of us notice it all the time, in the regular season teams do not have time to adjust their defense to stop him so it just becomes more obvious in the playoffs. The issue is that he is the only one that creates for others, until the Bucks get another good playmaker he will always struggle in the playoffs.

Metallikid · Post #3 » by **Metallikid** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:22 pm

Watch on YouTube

4pointkiller · Post #4 » by **4pointkiller** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:26 pm

The problem is media is putting him on a pedestal when he is more like the 15th best player instead of 1st. All it takes to neutralize him is having some strong post defenders that can hold their ground.

Pharmcat · Post #5 » by **Pharmcat** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:29 pm

He got exposed in fiba

Mister Ze · Post #6 » by **Mister Ze** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:30 pm

Funny how people are knocking on Giannis when his teammates and coaches are failing him. If Bledsoe Lopez and the bench actually played like they did in the regular season the Bucks would probably be up right now

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #7 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:30 pm

These takes crazy, not even top 5??

BigDocta898 · Post #8 » by **BigDocta898** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:32 pm

Pharmcat wrote:He got exposed in fiba

Yup FIBA refs arent corporate shills for the nba and actually call travels and charges

Danny1616 · Post #9 » by **Danny1616** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:33 pm

When you average like 30, 13 and 7 on ultra efficiency and your team has the best record in the NBA you not only deserve to be in the top 5, but you are also arguably the best.

He's also the only superstar that doesn't have another legitimate star next to him.

Kawhi has George.

Lebron has AD.

Harden has Westbrook.

Curry has Klay.

Middleton is not near what players like George, AD, Westbrook and Klay are. If Giannis had anyone of those guys next to him the Bucks probably win the chip.

Lebron couldn't win a chip until he had Wade and Bosh and then Kyrie and Love alongside him. Until he gets players of that caliber next to him, it's going to be tough, because he isn't a guy who can close out a game with his lack of consistent outside shooting.

Close this thread.

Tor_Raps · Post #10 » by **Tor_Raps** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:34 pm

All Shaq did was push people around the basketball and dunk the ball, how is he considered one of the best players of all time?

/sarcasm

4pointkiller · Post #11 » by **4pointkiller** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:37 pm

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:These takes crazy, not even top 5??

If a guy with 1 move can be top 5 player in the NBA, that means the sport is crap and takes no skill. The fact the Heat have made him so pointless shows it takes more than driving to the hole to be a champion.

Lunartic · Post #12 » by **Lunartic** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:37 pm

He's top-5 just from sheer impact on both sides but yeah he's the most offensively limited star player in the game.
We saw what happened in the FIBA tournament, he was locked down by some fat unathletic hungover Russians.

D.Brasco · Post #13 » by **D.Brasco** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:41 pm

Danny1616 wrote:When you average like 30, 13 and 7 on ultra efficiency and your team has the best record in the NBA you not only deserve to be in the top 5, but you are also arguably the best.

He's also the only superstar that doesn't have another legitimate star next to him.

Kawhi has George.

Lebron has AD.

Harden has Westbrook.

Curry has Klay.

Middleton is not near what players like George, AD, Westbrook and Klay are. If Giannis had anyone of those guys next to him the Bucks probably win the chip.

Lebron couldn't win a chip until he had Wade and Bosh and then Kyrie and Love alongside him. Until he gets players of that caliber next to him, it's going to be tough, because he isn't a guy who can close out a game with his lack of consistent outside shooting.

Close this thread.

The difference is that LeBron wasn't continually being exposed in the playoffs on an individual level like Giannis is with teams learning to wall him off.

LeBron in 2009 vs the Magic was of the best individual playoff performances, with heavy emphasis on the individual. Likewise nobody faulted LeBron in 2015 vs the Warriors.

tdotrep2 · Post #14 » by **tdotrep2** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:42 pm

i've been saying this for a while, nurse is going to have to fix him when he comes.

kobe_vs_jordan · Post #15 » by **kobe_vs_jordan** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:43 pm

4pointkiller wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:These takes crazy, not even top 5??

If a guy with 1 move can be top 5 player in the NBA, that means the sport is crap and takes no skill. The fact the Heat have made him so pointless shows it takes more than driving to the hole to be a champion.

Defense not a skill? Averaging 6 assist not a skill? Finishing 78% of your shots in the paint not a skill?

This isn't a style competition.

Raptor_Guy · Post #16 » by **Raptor_Guy** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:44 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:All Shaq did was push people around the basketball and dunk the ball, how is he considered one of the best players of all time?

Not really true, he actually had great footwork and post moves.

YogurtProducer · Post #17 » by **YogurtProducer** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:46 pm

Why do we always rush to beat down great players? One guy can’t win alone, and they’re not perfect players in all areas.

Realistically he shouldn’t be the main creator, but he is absolutely dominant in tons of areas. Shaq needed Kobe. MJ needed Pip. LBJ needed Wade (then Kyrie, then AD).

Lillard needs another guy and that’s why he won’t win
Lowry/Siakam need a guy like Kawhi
Embiid needs a Butler

No player wins by themselves. Some players are **** incredible but are less than elite at shot creation. It doesn’t mean they’re not amazing players, they’re just amazing in other ways

TheBullsDynasty · Post #18 » by **TheBullsDynasty** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:47 pm

Mister Ze wrote:Funny how people are knocking on Giannis when his teammates and coaches are failing him. If Bledsoe Lopez and the bench actually played like they did in the regular season the Bucks would probably be up right now

The problem is... Those players aren't getting the same looks that they got in the regular season... Because Giannis isn't able to create for himself and his teammates with the way Heat is defending him.

YogurtProducer · Post #19 » by **YogurtProducer** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:48 pm

4pointkiller wrote:
kobe_vs_jordan wrote:These takes crazy, not even top 5??

If a guy with 1 move can be top 5 player in the NBA, that means the sport is crap and takes no skill. The fact the Heat have made him so pointless shows it takes more than driving to the hole to be a champion.

You just learned today that size and athleticism is the most important quality in an NBA player, didn't you?

LesGrossman · Post #20 » by **LesGrossman** » Sun Sep 6, 2020 8:50 pm

Giannis lives off his size and athleticism, literally what LBJ did for the first ten years of his career where he basically travelled evry play (uncalled).

Giannis right now is playing hard but his team is, in simple terms, choking terribly. They were very impressive offensively and completely disappeared in this series adn the one guy who shouldnt get any blame is Giannis tbh. I understand that certain stans enjoy him being eliminated and try to make a narrative that he is so overrated but i believe its quite unfair. He has no super team built around him, he has no top 3 or top 5 star he can lean on. He literally has to get past 3-4 defenders every play because they sag off his team mates.