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Yikes. Luckily refs called the foul on Jokic but this is the BS that made me mad and fouled out Zubac. He will eventually hurt someone doing this Harden crap.

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Yikes. Luckily refs called the foul on Jokic but this is the BS that made me mad and fouled out Zubac. He will eventually hurt someone doing this Harden crap.

1st time I’ve seen him do that, and I watched him a lot, so it’s gotta be accidental.

How would you run to the rim without putting your arm like Jokic did there? What, put it in the air so you dont grab his hand? Reach in foul all the way, thats stupid from Zubac side...

Lol why is there a Clippers in 4 option

psimanic1 wrote:How would you run to the rim without putting your arm like Jokic did there? What, put it in the air so you dont grab his hand? Reach in foul all the way, thats stupid from Zubac side...

Huh? He pinned his arm at the elbow. It was rightly called an offensive foul. It's Harden's go to move, Jokic is obviously watching Harden film. The problem I have is unlike a head snap flop etc, this kind of play has a decent chance to actually injure a player.

Forte IV wrote:Lol why is there a Clippers in 4 option

Should say Clippers in 3. I voted Clips in 6, but if they win tonight they will be in a really good spot. If it goes 2-2 it's anyone's series. Last series it was neck and neck like this through 4 games, then Clippers won by 43 and 13 or whatever in 5+6. I hope they learn that they can't just flip a switch and win. They aren't the dynasty Warriors, Lakers or Bulls. Not only are they nowhere near as good, but they don't know how to win yet. They haven't earned the right to just show up and think they will win games.

Game 3 showed the value of having an efficient closer. Jokic, despite his talents, makes too many unforced errors and has bad streaks during games. He's got to score when he has space in the paint, not pass it out so quickly when the game is on the line.

I know its not rocket science but Denver must win tonight. This isn't the Utah Jazz, no coming back from 3-1 this time. I picked Clippers in 6 so I guess I will go with Denver tonight.

Jokic was passing to the guys who had open looks, that's smart basketball. Not his fault they missed the shots.

ItsDanger wrote:Game 3 showed the value of having an efficient closer. Jokic, despite his talents, makes too many unforced errors and has bad streaks during games. He's got to score when he has space in the paint, not pass it out so quickly when the game is on the line.

I mean at the end of the day, the Nugs lost missing open shots. Grant is not a great shooter, but he missed good looks in the 4th. As did Murray. As did Harris. As did Jokic. Really good looks for them that normally go down (except maybe Grant) and they just missed. And it also coincided with pandemic P having his best game of the playoffs.

There's no doubt that the Clips have more talent and are favoured. But if in a close playoff game with them you get great looks in the 4th, you've done your job and put yourself in a position to win. The bigger problem is the TO's and the long board leakouts. The Nuggets half court defense has been surprisingly incredible vs the Clips half court offense. The Clips are just beating them down the court though and getting key open court TO's. Clean that up and the Nugs have a chance.

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psimanic1 wrote:How would you run to the rim without putting your arm like Jokic did there? What, put it in the air so you dont grab his hand? Reach in foul all the way, thats stupid from Zubac side...

Huh? He pinned his arm at the elbow. It was rightly called an offensive foul. It's Harden's go to move, Jokic is obviously watching Harden film. The problem I have is unlike a head snap flop etc, this kind of play has a decent chance to actually injure a player.

But the point is Zubac's arm was already there committing a reach in foul when he pinned it.

The offensive foul call was fine, but it could have gone wither way. And the dangerous comment is nonsense.

But, getting back to tonight's game, Murray absolutely needs to bounce back from his shooting slump for Denver to win this game. He may or he may not--that's his history.

manchambo wrote:

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:

psimanic1 wrote:How would you run to the rim without putting your arm like Jokic did there? What, put it in the air so you dont grab his hand? Reach in foul all the way, thats stupid from Zubac side...

Huh? He pinned his arm at the elbow. It was rightly called an offensive foul. It's Harden's go to move, Jokic is obviously watching Harden film. The problem I have is unlike a head snap flop etc, this kind of play has a decent chance to actually injure a player.

But the point is Zubac's arm was already there committing a reach in foul when he pinned it.

The offensive foul call was fine, but it could have gone wither way. And the dangerous comment is nonsense.

A reach isn't a foul. It's a gamble for a steal. You can reach and get pinned while missing the player.

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:

manchambo wrote:

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
Huh? He pinned his arm at the elbow. It was rightly called an offensive foul. It's Harden's go to move, Jokic is obviously watching Harden film. The problem I have is unlike a head snap flop etc, this kind of play has a decent chance to actually injure a player.

But the point is Zubac's arm was already there committing a reach in foul when he pinned it.

The offensive foul call was fine, but it could have gone wither way. And the dangerous comment is nonsense.

A reach isn't a foul. It's a gamble for a steal. You can reach and get pinned while missing the player.

Look at position in which Jokics body is in, and tell me if he was able to put that hand somewhere else while leaning in that direction. This is in no way even close to what Harden is doing. Did you ever hear about inertion? This shouldve been reach in foul
Jokic just wanted to pick up drible with both hands, and Zubac put his hand where he shouldnt have, so give him a foul

psimanic1 wrote:

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:

manchambo wrote:
But the point is Zubac's arm was already there committing a reach in foul when he pinned it.

The offensive foul call was fine, but it could have gone wither way. And the dangerous comment is nonsense.

A reach isn't a foul. It's a gamble for a steal. You can reach and get pinned while missing the player.

Look at position in which Jokics body is in, and tell me if he was able to put that hand somewhere else while leaning in that direction. This is in no way even close to what Harden is doing. Did you ever hear about inertion? This shouldve been reach in foul

Either way hand checking despite being illegal now technically, happens probably 50x a game. It's a pretty normal basketball move to put a hand on someone's body. Instead of admitting that pinning the arm and running or jumping with it is reckless, you're basically obsessing on a basketball play that is perfectly normal and common. Nobody really plays D completely with their feet.

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:

psimanic1 wrote:

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
A reach isn't a foul. It's a gamble for a steal. You can reach and get pinned while missing the player.

Look at position in which Jokics body is in, and tell me if he was able to put that hand somewhere else while leaning in that direction. This is in no way even close to what Harden is doing. Did you ever hear about inertion? This shouldve been reach in foul

Either way hand checking despite being illegal now technically, happens probably 50x a game. It's a pretty normal basketball move to put a hand on someone's body. Instead of admitting that pinning the arm and running or jumping with it is reckless, you're basically obsessing on a basketball play that is perfectly normal and common. Nobody really plays D completely with their feet.

Thats why you call a fould before he pins his hand, what, Jokic should watch if there is someones hand on his body when he wants to pick the ball with both hands?

its so annoying not being able to watch this game

The game is on ESPN 2