Wiretap: Clippers Could Upgrade Roster via Trade Taking On Salary

[donnieme]

Clips do have alot of players teams will be interested in

If im Knicks im on the phone right now to acquire Shamet

Outside of Shamet, it's kinda slim pickings for players they have under contract.

Let's not get washed away in the moment. Every player on their roster is a good trade asset, yes even Montrez. A roster that has the "problem" of too many 20ppg guys is never in a bad spot, cos that's what they are

[TheGOATWill]

just re-sign harrell and run it back. They already have most of their assets tied up for about 5-6 years. They didnt make that trade for a one year window.

Lakers and Nuggets are better as constructed. The Warriors could leapfrog them if they return to form. Clips need a floor general that can space. Maybe Dragic would be interested in the MLE.

[mademan]

Clips do have alot of players teams will be interested in

If im Knicks im on the phone right now to acquire Shamet

Outside of Shamet, it's kinda slim pickings for players they have under contract.

Let's not get washed away in the moment. Every player on their roster is a good trade asset, yes even Montrez. A roster that has the "problem" of too many 20ppg guys is never in a bad spot, cos that's what they are

Montrez is a decent player, but he and Morris are FA's and it's always been difficult to find value in S&T's.
Guys like Lou and PG are difficult to trade AND get an upgrade for.

Really, all they got is Shamet and Zubac with decent value. And I dont know if youre gonna get a better bang for your buck over Zu and Shamet doesnt make enough money to trade. Honestly, trade market wise, theyre gonna have to be very creative to get upgrades. Maybe the MLE gives them a decent pg, but even then....

[donnieme]

Outside of Shamet, it's kinda slim pickings for players they have under contract.

Let's not get washed away in the moment. Every player on their roster is a good trade asset, yes even Montrez. A roster that has the "problem" of too many 20ppg guys is never in a bad spot, cos that's what they are

Montrez is a decent player, but he and Morris are FA's and it's always been difficult to find value in S&T's.
Guys like Lou and PG are difficult to trade AND get an upgrade for.

Really, all they got is Shamet and Zubac with decent value. And I dont know if youre gonna get a better bang for your buck over Zu and Shamet doesnt make enough money to trade. Honestly, trade market wise, theyre gonna have to be very creative to get upgrades. Maybe the MLE gives them a decent pg, but even then....

Didn't know Trez and Morris were FAs. That suddenly makes the Clippers situation worse. I guess they should re-sign them and run it back. The worst thing a contending team trying to improve can do is let rotation guys walk for nothing. Morris had a good postseason for a roleplayer and Montrez can still produce. Worst case you trade some of them for upgrades before the midseason trade deadline. The improvements don't have to come in the offseason. I still think they could have won this year if they didn't dick around all season. Too bad they couldnt play the lakers 82 times a year

[mdenny]

They'll have plenty of options there, Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Al Horford, Tobias Harris, Lamarcus Aldridge, Demar Derozan, Andre Drummond, Andrew Wiggins are all highly paid players on long term contracts with unhappy teams. If they aren't already over the tax, they can also engage Cleveland on a sign and trade for Tristan Thompson.

I don't see how they can match salary without trading George. And noone looking to get rid of long term bad contracts would want to take george in return because he has a player option after next season.

I don't see how they can take on any of the names circulating this thread. They can't match salaries. Or am I missing something?

[EArl]

Derrick Rose probably best cheapest answer tbh.

Would he take every other game off? Derrick Rose cannot be relied on long term.

[RonaldArtest]

They’re going to have to get hella creative, hopefully fleece some GM, not sure. They don’t have a lot of tradable assets, and every team in the league has leverage knowing their sense of urgency. Best thing they can hope for is some actual chemistry and to start playing like a team instead of a collection of players.

[zimpy27]

S+T Harrell for a PG

They have assets to move to change the team around.

[DS17]

Gotta make sure balmer isn’t paying these guys under the table to keep em (Morris and Harrel). NBA PLZ KEEP TRACK

[Diop]

I think Horford would help them, he's always been good at helping team mates win.

[Alatan]

I'm really interested in what the Clippers can do to improve this team. I genuinely believe they need a point guard, someone who can initiate the offense. This is something I've felt the team has missed the entire year. They have roughly 115M in commitments for the next season, with their notable free agents being Marcus Morris and Montrezl Harrell. I genuinely have no idea what these two will command given the uncertainty with the current climate. Morris was making 15M this year, with Harrell making another 6M.

I'm assuming Harrell will command significantly more than that having won Sixth Man of the Year. Let's say Harrell resigns with the Clippers for an average of 12M per year, and Morris returns for the same 15M per year (non-Bird rights) he was making this year.

Your assets at this point include a 33 year old Lou Williams, Patrick Beverly at 13M with an additional year at 14M, Marcus Morris at 15M, Montrezl Harrell at 12M, Ivica Zubac, and Landry Shamet. I could be biased, but I only see one of those as really being an asset (Zubac). Morris and Harrell might be assets depending on how their deals are structured, but I feel that's unlikely.

I guess if I were to summarize. . . I don't really see how they're able to upgrade this roster.

Good observations bro.

I believe even an above avarage guard who can shoot&play p&R and off to ball consistently would do wonder to that toxic offensive scheme. Spencer Dinwiddie would be my top choice but not sure Nets would be interested on any of Harrell-Beverley-Lou. More realistically Tomas Satoransky would be my target from Chicago. Sato also has huge body that bothers lot of wings on opposing teams.

I can't see us making a big move for those "big names" mentioned in this thread.

Tomas Satoransky was my first choice for the Clippers in the trade deadline. I was surprised they added Jackson who doesnt fix any of their problems.

[gordonyao]

might be trade Lou for a play maker like George Hill?

[Alatan]

Derrick Rose probably best cheapest answer tbh.

Rose is not a floor general and has questionable IQ. Id pass on him even if he was available. Clippers need a guy that can run plays and find guys in good spots. Currently they look like they have no idea what to do when their shots are not falling in.

[speedfiend]

S+T Harrell for Lonzo + Picks.
Lonze wouldn't be counted on to do the heavy lifting with scoring, and his passing and floor spacing would complement Kwahi & PG.

[Slava]

They'll have plenty of options there, Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Al Horford, Tobias Harris, Lamarcus Aldridge, Demar Derozan, Andre Drummond, Andrew Wiggins are all highly paid players on long term contracts with unhappy teams. If they aren't already over the tax, they can also engage Cleveland on a sign and trade for Tristan Thompson.

I don't see how they can match salary without trading George. And noone looking to get rid of long term bad contracts would want to take george in return because he has a player option after next season.

I don't see how they can take on any of the names circulating this thread. They can't match salaries. Or am I missing something?

Pat Bev, Zubac and Lou would combine for $28M in outgoing salary, who could all be of interest to a team like the Sixers. Jamychael Green, if he picks up his player option is another $5M and change to add as outgoing salary and Rodney McGruder is an additional $5M.

[ElectricMayhem]

I'm trying to imagine what Blake Griffin would look like in a Clippers uniform.

[Captain Ballmer]

I'm really interested in what the Clippers can do to improve this team. I genuinely believe they need a point guard, someone who can initiate the offense. This is something I've felt the team has missed the entire year. They have roughly 115M in commitments for the next season, with their notable free agents being Marcus Morris and Montrezl Harrell. I genuinely have no idea what these two will command given the uncertainty with the current climate. Morris was making 15M this year, with Harrell making another 6M.

I'm assuming Harrell will command significantly more than that having won Sixth Man of the Year. Let's say Harrell resigns with the Clippers for an average of 12M per year, and Morris returns for the same 15M per year (non-Bird rights) he was making this year.

Your assets at this point include a 33 year old Lou Williams, Patrick Beverly at 13M with an additional year at 14M, Marcus Morris at 15M, Montrezl Harrell at 12M, Ivica Zubac, and Landry Shamet. I could be biased, but I only see one of those as really being an asset (Zubac). Morris and Harrell might be assets depending on how their deals are structured, but I feel that's unlikely.

I guess if I were to summarize. . . I don't really see how they're able to upgrade this roster.

Good observations bro.

I believe even an above avarage guard who can shoot&play p&R and off to ball consistently would do wonder to that toxic offensive scheme. Spencer Dinwiddie would be my top choice but not sure Nets would be interested on any of Harrell-Beverley-Lou. More realistically Tomas Satoransky would be my target from Chicago. Sato also has huge body that bothers lot of wings on opposing teams.

I can't see us making a big move for those "big names" mentioned in this thread.

Tomas Satoransky was my first choice for the Clippers in the trade deadline. I was surprised they added Jackson who doesnt fix any of their problems.

Well I have to admit, those problems wasn't seem to be a big deal during that time, seemed the team chemistry will grow on time and fix much of it. Anyway, who would of thought that kind of choke to happen can take me as his follower.

[Alatan]

Good observations bro.

I believe even an above avarage guard who can shoot&play p&R and off to ball consistently would do wonder to that toxic offensive scheme. Spencer Dinwiddie would be my top choice but not sure Nets would be interested on any of Harrell-Beverley-Lou. More realistically Tomas Satoransky would be my target from Chicago. Sato also has huge body that bothers lot of wings on opposing teams.

I can't see us making a big move for those "big names" mentioned in this thread.

Tomas Satoransky was my first choice for the Clippers in the trade deadline. I was surprised they added Jackson who doesnt fix any of their problems.

Well I have to admit, those problems wasn't seem to be a big deal during that time, seemed the team chemistry will grow on time and fix much of it. Anyway, who would of thought that kind of choke to happen can take me as his follower.

Didnt expect them to choke or even lose this early but they always looked worse than the sum of their parts. Their offense was always disjointed and relies too much on isolation. Thats not how a great team plays.

[Synciere]

Long term money doesn’t have to be big money like Westbrook or wall or CP3. It could mean a guy has 2 or 3 or 4 years left. Maybe an Aaron Gordon from the Magic. Maybe a Rubio or Oubre from Phoenix. Maybe Murray from San Antonio.

[WHITE_HOT_HEAT]

Yeah.. no.. it's all downhill from here. You're looking at 30 year olds who need to be load managed and treated like glass men. Also, their assets are poo poo. To get anyone of note that can improve their roster, they'd have to give up something of note. They've no picks and are screwed. All that money Ballmer threw at the media to hype them up..

Fat entitled ogre