Cool it with the 'hater' stuff

[TRik]

Just thought I'd throw out a call for less 'hater' talk.

On a whole, I think most RealGM posters are just big basketball fans wanting to see good basketball and discuss that. I think most of us likely have more in common than we may think. In this environment, it should be acceptable to admire a player (or a team) but to also question aspects of their play on a basketball forum. This is what should inspire good conversation after all.

I think LeBron is clearly one of the all-time greats, but I have had a few experiences lately where I can't say anything slightly critical about him without being called a 'hater'. Example... just as the game started today, I made the observation that LeBron could be quietly hoping for a more competitive series because it would play out in the media better......and I got called a 'hater'.

Making the observation that LeBron might want a more competitive series, after the first two games, is not hating. It might be disagreeable to some, and that's OK.

Some posters might be blatantly trolling, I get that. But I think most are just fans making observations and genuinely trying to get along. Give your fellow posters the benefit of the doubt, until it becomes obvious they may be trolling or baiting. If you disagree with what someone wrote, then cool, outline why you disagree.

Everything doesn't need to be a fight.

Thanks for considering.

[scrabbarista]

You're welcome.

[Steelo Green]

I have had the following pontificated towards me that I am:

-Colangelo's wife/child
-a sad individual
-a fan who has been watching for the last 2-3 seasons (hilarious considering I made an account in 2013, and since I have been posting on other forums since 05)
-purposely obtuse
-had homophobic remarks made against me
-a terrible life outside of rgm
-ungrateful
-a terrible poster
-play NBA2k and not real life
-my parents are stupid and I am a result of their tutelage

But hey, I am the angry person

All because I painted a narrative people holistically disagree with.

The irony

[Zvaart]

just as the game started today, I made the observation that LeBron could be quietly hoping for a more competitive series because it would play out in the media better......and I got called a 'hater'.

i'm not calling you a hater, but you are plain wrong. nobody is playing games in the NBA finals, where you might me an injury away by turning a series around. And he knows it from 2015. LeBron is a diva, but we would not toy with this possibility.

[Collymore]

I have had the following pontificated towards me that I am:

-Colangelo's wife/child
-a sad individual
-a fan who has been watching for the last 2-3 seasons (hilarious considering I made an account in 2013, and since I have been posting on other forums since 05)
-purposely obtuse
-had homophobic remarks made against me
-a terrible life outside of rgm
-ungrateful
-a terrible poster
-play NBA2k and not real life
-my parents are stupid and I am a result of their tutelage

And it's all true.

[TRik]

just as the game started today, I made the observation that LeBron could be quietly hoping for a more competitive series because it would play out in the media better......and I got called a 'hater'.

i'm not calling you a hater, but you are plain wrong. nobody is playing games in the NBA finals, where you might me an injury away by turning a series around. And he knows it from 2015. LeBron is a diva, but we would not toy with this possibility.

Yeah, completely get that. I also made the point that he would never throw the game. Just that, he would have to quietly know a competitive series looks better than a walkover. I fully appreciate that he would never try to lose.

[Lalouie]

i don't know if there's any grey when it comes to lebron. either you hate him or you love him

[TRik]

i don't know if there's any grey when it comes to lebron. either you hate him or you love him

Yeah, I don't agree. I think that kind of paradigm creates very divisive dialogue. The world is nuanced and complex, I think fans are completely capable of sitting somewhere in the middle.

I think he's super talented. I don't flat out love him....but I certainly don't hate him either.

[Lalouie]

i don't know if there's any grey when it comes to lebron. either you hate him or you love him

Yeah, I don't agree. I think that kind of paradigm creates very divisive dialogue. The world is nuanced and complex, I think fans are completely capable of sitting somewhere in the middle.

I think he's super talented. I don't flat out love him....but I certainly don't hate him either.

i myself appreciate the package. it's the best "package" i've ever seen at his position. i don't agree with the goat rhetoric and i don't place him as high as others do. but when it comes to the conversation i am hard core anti-lebron amidst lebron lovers. part of it is like with the dallas cowboys and stephenA. he hates the fans. i don't like lebron lovers. they're mostly under 30.

and this whole debate centers around the lebron skillset versus the lebron accolades/hardware. and since among the goat elites it's all about the rings then i side with them. no one knows the innards like the pros do, everyone else is just outsiders looking in

[Baski]

Just thought I'd throw out a call for less 'hater' talk.

On a whole, I think most RealGM posters are just big basketball fans wanting to see good basketball and discuss that. I think most of us likely have more in common than we may think. In this environment, it should be acceptable to admire a player (or a team) but to also question aspects of their play on a basketball forum. This is what should inspire good conversation after all.

I think LeBron is clearly one of the all-time greats, but I have had a few experiences lately where I can't say anything slightly critical about him without being called a 'hater'. Example... just as the game started today, I made the observation that LeBron could be quietly hoping for a more competitive series because it would play out in the media better......and I got called a 'hater'.

Making the observation that LeBron might want a more competitive series, after the first two games, is not hating. It might be disagreeable to some, and that's OK.

Some posters might be blatantly trolling, I get that. But I think most are just fans making observations and genuinely trying to get along. Give your fellow posters the benefit of the doubt, until it becomes obvious they may be trolling or baiting. If you disagree with what someone wrote, then cool, outline why you disagree.

Everything doesn't need to be a fight.

Thanks for considering.

There legitimately are a lot of them and there's nothing you can do about it. As it stands now, there are a lot of hate-motivated posts on the board and yours, being not exactly flattering to him, will naturally be recognized as such. The people who are to blame are the trolls you acknowledge. If you're not a hater then you'll pretty consistently

The best thing you can do is just continue to post your opinions. If you're not a hater then you'll pretty consistently post a lot of positive comments in addition to ones like what you got blasted for. If they're consistently negative and bordering on stupidity, you'll be confirmed as a hater. Otherwise most posters can tell when you post without an agenda behind it. No use complaining about it as long as the real haters are so ubiquitous and vocal.

[poultryfan]

Basketball tribalism

[RB34]

LeBron fans acting like they haven’t been trying to tear down Kobe for the last 17 years.

[swyftdahoe]

1) Yes, we probably do have a lot in common. Such as, for all intents and purposes, being "lame" and "fanatical" enough to want to talk basketball with strangers on an internet forum. I admit that readily. Your opinions and thoughts matter to me (RealGM) - more so than any other place on tv + online.
2) People just throw out the "hater" card because it's easier than dishing out nuance or taking the time to understand someone else's perspective, regardless of how much you disagree with them on the surface.

[TRik]

1) Yes, we probably do have a lot in common. Such as, for all intents and purposes, being "lame" and "fanatical" enough to want to talk basketball with strangers on an internet forum. I admit that readily. Your opinions and thoughts matter to me (RealGM) - more so than any other place on tv + online.
2) People just throw out the "hater" card because it's easier than dishing out nuance or taking the time to understand someone else's perspective, regardless of how much you disagree with them on the surface.

Bryant Reeves used to lose his hair when he got stressed. Am I remembering that correctly?

[TheHardenChoke]

His little nerd fans live their lives through him and get angry....some are plain psychotic...it is what it is...they blindly defend him like he is their son lol

[leolozon]

You had a completely irrational take and then decided to create a thread about the irrational take, showing that you lack the ability to question your own opinion? NO PLAYER would lose on purpose to make a series closer. Why would anyone even think that about any player unless they are being irrational?

I personally only call someone a hater if :

1- He calls other people "stans"
2- I've seen him repeatedly post irrational negative thing about a player.

I don't like the term "hater", but it's about the same as "stan".

I have know idea about your post history, but this is certainly evidence #1 of an irrational negative thing against a player.

[leolozon]

His little nerd fans live their lives through him and get angry....some are plain psychotic...it is what it is...they blindly defend him like he is their son lol

In a thread complaining about people calling others "haters", you use the term 'little nerds fans"... And I guess you don't see the problem with it? You are as bad as them, but don't seem to realize it.

But I guess you being called "TheHardenCHoke" mean that you are a troll account anyway and just like being negative. You are definitely part of the problem.

[swyftdahoe]

1) Yes, we probably do have a lot in common. Such as, for all intents and purposes, being "lame" and "fanatical" enough to want to talk basketball with strangers on an internet forum. I admit that readily. Your opinions and thoughts matter to me (RealGM) - more so than any other place on tv + online.
2) People just throw out the "hater" card because it's easier than dishing out nuance or taking the time to understand someone else's perspective, regardless of how much you disagree with them on the surface.

Bryant Reeves used to lose his hair when he got stressed. Am I remembering that correctly?

Oh lol. No idea. But I do recall that he had lots of missing spots of hair. I think someone told me it was because he was bullied as a kid and others were throwing rocks at his head. I have no idea what's true

[TRik]

1) Yes, we probably do have a lot in common. Such as, for all intents and purposes, being "lame" and "fanatical" enough to want to talk basketball with strangers on an internet forum. I admit that readily. Your opinions and thoughts matter to me (RealGM) - more so than any other place on tv + online.
2) People just throw out the "hater" card because it's easier than dishing out nuance or taking the time to understand someone else's perspective, regardless of how much you disagree with them on the surface.

Bryant Reeves used to lose his hair when he got stressed. Am I remembering that correctly?

Oh lol. No idea. But I do recall that he had lots of missing spots of hair. I think someone told me it was because he was bullied as a kid and others were throwing rocks at his head. I have no idea what's true

I swear I saw like a CTV news story about it or something back in the day. I tried googling but couldn’t find anything. I’m pretty sure they were reporting that he lost hair from that spot when he was stressed. I always thought that was funny but also kinda sad.

Anyone else remember this??

[TRik]

You had a completely irrational take and then decided to create a thread about the irrational take, showing that you lack the ability to question your own opinion? NO PLAYER would lose on purpose to make a series closer. Why would anyone even think that about any player unless they are being irrational?

I personally only call someone a hater if :

1- He calls other people "stans"
2- I've seen him repeatedly post irrational negative thing about a player.

I don't like the term "hater", but it's about the same as "stan".

I have know idea about your post history, but this is certainly evidence #1 of an irrational negative thing against a player.

Cheers for the comment. You may not have seen, but I also made it clear that I didn’t think he would try to lose. I fully appreciate he will always try to win. I was simply making the point that he could quietly be hoping for a competitive series.

I don’t think that’s too irrational a comment. But I get people might disagree.