Bucks front office blunder again?

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Bucks front office blunder again? 

Post#1 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:21 am

From John Hollinger...

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As I mentioned in an earlier missive (scroll down), the Bucks originally agreed to a two-year, $8 million deal with Pat Connaughton that included a second-year player option. Only one problem: As an Early Bird Rights player, Connaughton wasn’t eligible to receive a second-year player option on his deal.

As a result, the Bucks (almost certainly) would have had to go back to his agent with hat in hand and request a different arrangement. That’s why a new arrangement for Connaughton was reported later this afternoon. This time they ended up paying twice as much money, to do a three-year deal worth $16 million.

Wait, it gets worse. Despite the error, the Bucks didn’t even need to do the second part. They could have signed Connaughton to the original with their midlevel exception. Yes, they had already agreed to a sign D.J. Augustin to a three-year, $21 million deal with their midlevel exception, but this was also unnecessary.

Augustin’s contract, as it turns out, would have fit snugly into the Jrue Holiday trade with New Orleans as a sign-and-trade if they had either A) started him slightly lower at $6.33 million (for a three-year deal worth $19.5 million or B) included two-way Cam Reynolds in a sign-and-trade back as part of the deal.

They would have had to work out a sign-and-trade with Orlando, but doing so would have been favorable to the Magic as well, generating a $7 million trade exception for the Magic. (Indeed, it is equally bizarre that the Magic did not pursue this angle with more vigor). Orlando would have just needed to send the rights to Janis Timma to New Orleans to complete this, and if they needed cash to pay Reynolds’ salary they could have asked nicely and got it. Doing it this way would have hard-capped the Bucks, but using their full midlevel exception hard capped them anyway, so no loss.

Of course, the bigger issue is that they shouldn’t have stepped in it in Connaughton’s deal in the first place. This is part of a worrying free agency trend in Milwaukee. Last offseason they missed out on generating a $10 million trade exception from the Malcolm Brogdon sign-and-trade (think that might have been useful this week?) by not distributing George Hill’s guaranteed money slightly differently or using incentives on his or Brook Lopez’s contract. And a week ago, of course, they (or others involved) botched the sign-and-trade with Bogdan Bogdanovic when news of it leaked out inappropriately early.
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Re: Bucks front office blunder again? 

Post#2 » by WeTheNorth123 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:23 am

Giannis just happens to be close friends with one the best front office guys (Masai Ujiri)

+ Raptors are one of the 3 teams that have max in 2021

That's not a good combo lol!
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Post#3 » by Smirkin Dirk » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:24 am

Being a GM sounds fun, until you realise it's basically advanced accounting.
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Post#4 » by The High Cyde » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:26 am

They’re gonna lose Giannis due to their own buffoonery, you can’t make repeated mistakes like that and expect to retain your star player especially if you’re in a small market.
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Post#5 » by The_Hater » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:26 am

Yikes.

Spend the $70K and hire a capologist you freakin’ cheapskates. Nothing worse than running a Mickey Mouse looking organization and costing yourself millions on the back end.
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Post#6 » by Tor_Raps » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:27 am

Smirkin Dirk wrote:Being a GM sounds fun, until you realise it's basically advanced accounting.


Its honestly not that hard. Theres a bunch of people here that already understand most of how things work. If they got even half of the training and resources that GMs got, it would be pretty simple.
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Post#7 » by LFAHFN22 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:28 am

Giannis to Miami next year, confirmed.

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Post#8 » by Dundalis » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:28 am

Smirkin Dirk wrote:Being a GM sounds fun, until you realise it's basically advanced accounting.

And? With the money they make, go to damn school. It’s also really not that hard if that’s your job and you have any semblance of intelligence. I wouldn’t even classify it as “advanced”
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Post#9 » by giberish » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:31 am

There's a reason so many on this board think they could be better then a bunch of NBA GMs.
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Post#10 » by PistolPeteJR » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:33 am

But some Bucks fans keep telling me they purposely didn’t want anything to do with Brogdon!
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Post#11 » by jayu70 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:38 am

Sounds like they need a capologist to help them navigate the contract structures.
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Post#12 » by lebron stopper » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:51 am

PistolPeteJR wrote:But some Bucks fans keep telling me they purposely didn’t want anything to do with Brogdon!


I think the Bucks wouldn't have to trade the farm for Holiday if they had just kept Brogdon in the first place, tbh.

What a disastrous offseason for the Bucks.
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Post#13 » by Dominater » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:54 am

Smirkin Dirk wrote:Being a GM sounds fun, until you realise it's basically advanced accounting.

That's what assistant GMs are for
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Post#14 » by AussieCeltic » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:56 am

How many people in a front office staff and no one can pick up these silly mistakes that literally cost millions of dollars
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Post#15 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:03 am

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Post#16 » by lvckv » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:04 am

Besides a) lol Bucks, and b) sign-and trade contracts have to be 3+ years, there's zero reason for Milwaukee to give Connaughton three years and an extra $8m just because they seemingly messed up and offered him a 1+1 in the first place.

It would be simple and legal to offer a straight two-year contract on the same salary. The minimum deal for an Early Bird Rights guy is two years.

Does anyone think our 9th/10th man has the leverage to get 3 years, $16m apropos of nothing? We could easily have just let him walk and see what other offers he's getting (hint: they're not going to be anywhere near that, and likely not even near 2 years, $8m). The Bucks are going cap in hand to beg freakin Pat Connaughton to take more money?? Can we get real for a second lol.

It's more logical to think the Bucks are trying to use him in a sign-and-trade deal and gave him more money as a recompense for shipping him off someplace.

But yeah, Bucks must just be incompetent and they don't hire any cap experts in 2020!
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Post#17 » by Yuri Vaultin » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:06 am

Do they not have a capologist and calculator?
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Post#18 » by Leslie Forman » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:09 am

Once Giannis leaves the Bucks are gonna be exposed for the Hornets/Pistons/Cavs/Kings/Magic/etc.-level trash ass organization they are. That front office is garbage.
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Post#19 » by urgal » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:09 am

Why don't they just simulate their trades in NBA 2k and see if it's successfull there? :D
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Post#20 » by Pharmcat » Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:10 am

Gianis will leave

This is unnacceptable
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