Magic Johnson's Highlights From 1986-87 MVP Season

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Magic Johnson's Highlights From 1986-87 MVP Season 

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Re: Magic Johnson's Highlights From 1986-87 MVP Season 

Post#2 » by BladeDaywalker » Mon Dec 7, 2020 11:07 am

Looking back at the 1986-87 Lakers, it is impressive to see how dominant they were.

They won 65 games, went 15-3 in the playoffs, and had the MVP in Magic and DOPY in Cooper.

The team as a whole was 1st in Off RTG, 7th in Def Rtg, 1st in SRS.

They had a starting lineup of Worthy, Kareem, Magic, Bryon Scott, A.C. Green with a bench of Michael Cooper, Mychal Thompson, and Kurt Rambis.

What a insane lineup in term of talent and depth.

Honestly, I consider this Lakers team to have been the best Lakers team ever above the 1971-72 Lakers.
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Re: Magic Johnson's Highlights From 1986-87 MVP Season 

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Post#4 » by SpreeS » Mon Dec 7, 2020 2:39 pm

It was very "spectacular" with KAJ, AC, Scott, Worthy, Cooper, Thompson against DEN 37wins SEA 39wins and GSW 42wins teams. Meanwhile BOS played two 7 games series in a row with two 50+ wins team in DET and MIL. No one from WC PO teams outplayed hier oponents from LAL starters.

39y KAJ outplayed prime Barry Carroll
AC Green outplayed Chambers
Worthy ate English and outplayed Xavier
Scott with Cooper ate Dale Ellis alive

The GAP between talents were so huge, that the best players from all 3 teams (Carroll/Chambers/English/Ellis/Floyd) dont have a chance against Magic and co
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Re: Magic Johnson's Highlights From 1986-87 MVP Season 

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SpreeS wrote:It was very "spectacular" with KAJ, AC, Scott, Worthy, Cooper, Thompson against DEN 37wins SEA 39wins and GSW 42wins teams. Meanwhile BOS played two 7 games series in a row with two 50+ wins team in DET and MIL. No one from WC PO teams outplayed hier oponents from LAL starters.

39y KAJ outplayed prime Barry Carroll
AC Green outplayed Chambers
Worthy ate English and outplayed Xavier
Scott with Cooper ate Dale Ellis alive

The GAP between talents were so huge, that the best players from all 3 teams (Carroll/Chambers/English/Ellis/Floyd) dont have a chance against Magic and co

Thankfully we had other Magic playoffs runs when he faced much better competition and he proved himself to be great.
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Post#6 » by ATRAIN53 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 3:22 pm

Magic made watching basketball fun!

He's still the #1 ambassador for this game.

Sad to think this generation of kids have no clue who he is and how he played and why he was so important to the NBA.

I wish we had Hi def highlights of Magic
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Post#7 » by HomoSapien » Mon Dec 7, 2020 5:20 pm

It’s such a shame how much more of Magic we missed due to the early retirement.
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Re: Magic Johnson's Highlights From 1986-87 MVP Season 

Post#8 » by SpreeS » Mon Dec 7, 2020 5:37 pm

70sFan wrote:
SpreeS wrote:It was very "spectacular" with KAJ, AC, Scott, Worthy, Cooper, Thompson against DEN 37wins SEA 39wins and GSW 42wins teams. Meanwhile BOS played two 7 games series in a row with two 50+ wins team in DET and MIL. No one from WC PO teams outplayed hier oponents from LAL starters.

39y KAJ outplayed prime Barry Carroll
AC Green outplayed Chambers
Worthy ate English and outplayed Xavier
Scott with Cooper ate Dale Ellis alive

The GAP between talents were so huge, that the best players from all 3 teams (Carroll/Chambers/English/Ellis/Floyd) dont have a chance against Magic and co

Thankfully we had other Magic playoffs runs when he faced much better competition and he proved himself to be great.


Yes, he had it with other greats like Divac, Haywood, McAdoo, Wilkes, Nixon against other mediocre WC teams. It could be the biggest gap in the longest period between one team and other conference teams in NBA history.
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Post#9 » by Jedi32 » Mon Dec 7, 2020 5:48 pm

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Post#10 » by 70sFan » Mon Dec 7, 2020 5:54 pm

SpreeS wrote:
70sFan wrote:
SpreeS wrote:It was very "spectacular" with KAJ, AC, Scott, Worthy, Cooper, Thompson against DEN 37wins SEA 39wins and GSW 42wins teams. Meanwhile BOS played two 7 games series in a row with two 50+ wins team in DET and MIL. No one from WC PO teams outplayed hier oponents from LAL starters.

39y KAJ outplayed prime Barry Carroll
AC Green outplayed Chambers
Worthy ate English and outplayed Xavier
Scott with Cooper ate Dale Ellis alive

The GAP between talents were so huge, that the best players from all 3 teams (Carroll/Chambers/English/Ellis/Floyd) dont have a chance against Magic and co

Thankfully we had other Magic playoffs runs when he faced much better competition and he proved himself to be great.


Yes, he had it with other greats like Divac, Haywood, McAdoo, Wilkes, Nixon against other mediocre WC teams. It could be the biggest gap in the longest period between one team and other conference teams in NBA history.

You're probably right, but Magic faced very tough competition in 1990 and 1991, he still played brilliantly and he didn't have stacked team at all by then,
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Post#11 » by SpreeS » Mon Dec 7, 2020 6:33 pm

70sFan wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
70sFan wrote:Thankfully we had other Magic playoffs runs when he faced much better competition and he proved himself to be great.


Yes, he had it with other greats like Divac, Haywood, McAdoo, Wilkes, Nixon against other mediocre WC teams. It could be the biggest gap in the longest period between one team and other conference teams in NBA history.

You're probably right, but Magic faced very tough competition in 1990 and 1991, he still played brilliantly and he didn't have stacked team at all by then,


Yes 90/91 were the most competetive years for Magic. Hakeem, Malone/Stockton, Drexler hited thier primes years and ''rookie" D-Rob was in place, but these all time greats didnt have better teams. Still Magic with prime Worthy/Scott/Green/young Divac/Perkins was on top. Maybe Drexler with Porter/Buck/Cliff/Kersey were on the same level.
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Post#12 » by 70sFan » Mon Dec 7, 2020 6:40 pm

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70sFan wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
Yes, he had it with other greats like Divac, Haywood, McAdoo, Wilkes, Nixon against other mediocre WC teams. It could be the biggest gap in the longest period between one team and other conference teams in NBA history.

You're probably right, but Magic faced very tough competition in 1990 and 1991, he still played brilliantly and he didn't have stacked team at all by then,


Yes 90/91 were the most competetive years for Magic. Hakeem, Malone/Stockton, Drexler hited thier primes years and ''rookie" D-Rob was in place, but these all time greats didnt have better teams. Still Magic with prime Worthy/Scott/Green/young Divac/Perkins was on top. Maybe Drexler with Porter/Buck/Cliff/Kersey were on the same level.

Worthy dealt with injuries and was significantly worse than the season before. Divac was a sophomore, Green and Scott were just a decent roleplayers. This is not elite supporting cast by any means and injuries didn't help in playoffs at all.

Portland team was certainly better and more talented in 1991.
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Post#13 » by SpreeS » Mon Dec 7, 2020 7:09 pm

70sFan wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
70sFan wrote:You're probably right, but Magic faced very tough competition in 1990 and 1991, he still played brilliantly and he didn't have stacked team at all by then,


Yes 90/91 were the most competetive years for Magic. Hakeem, Malone/Stockton, Drexler hited thier primes years and ''rookie" D-Rob was in place, but these all time greats didnt have better teams. Still Magic with prime Worthy/Scott/Green/young Divac/Perkins was on top. Maybe Drexler with Porter/Buck/Cliff/Kersey were on the same level.

Worthy dealt with injuries and was significantly worse than the season before. Divac was a sophomore, Green and Scott were just a decent roleplayers. This is not elite supporting cast by any means and injuries didn't help in playoffs at all.

Portland team was certainly better and more talented in 1991.


Magic/Worthy combo were better than Drexler/Porter. I dont know who would take Portland duo over Magic/Worthy. The rest are role players, Divac and Cliff both were sophomore, but Vlade with 2stl and 3blk against POR in WCF was way better player than Cliff. Scott/Perkins/ACGreen with their experience didnt give up to Kersey/Buck/Duckworth/Ainge. POR was TOP3 in DEF and OFF, LAL - TOP5 in RS, yes POR won RS, but teams like Magic LAL knew when to save energy and then to turn next gear.
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Re: Magic Johnson's Highlights From 1986-87 MVP Season 

Post#14 » by 70sFan » Mon Dec 7, 2020 7:47 pm

SpreeS wrote:
70sFan wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
Yes 90/91 were the most competetive years for Magic. Hakeem, Malone/Stockton, Drexler hited thier primes years and ''rookie" D-Rob was in place, but these all time greats didnt have better teams. Still Magic with prime Worthy/Scott/Green/young Divac/Perkins was on top. Maybe Drexler with Porter/Buck/Cliff/Kersey were on the same level.

Worthy dealt with injuries and was significantly worse than the season before. Divac was a sophomore, Green and Scott were just a decent roleplayers. This is not elite supporting cast by any means and injuries didn't help in playoffs at all.

Portland team was certainly better and more talented in 1991.


Magic/Worthy combo were better than Drexler/Porter. I dont know who would take Portland duo over Magic/Worthy. The rest are role players, Divac and Cliff both were sophomore, but Vlade with 2stl and 3blk against POR in WCF was way better player than Cliff. Scott/Perkins/ACGreen with their experience didnt give up to Kersey/Buck/Duckworth/Ainge. POR was TOP3 in DEF and OFF, LAL - TOP5 in RS, yes POR won RS, but teams like Magic LAL knew when to save energy and then to turn next gear.

Magic/Worthy duo is better because of Magic. Worthy was clearly worse than Drexler and Porter in 1991...
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Post#15 » by SpreeS » Mon Dec 7, 2020 8:22 pm

70sFan wrote:
SpreeS wrote:
70sFan wrote:Worthy dealt with injuries and was significantly worse than the season before. Divac was a sophomore, Green and Scott were just a decent roleplayers. This is not elite supporting cast by any means and injuries didn't help in playoffs at all.

Portland team was certainly better and more talented in 1991.


Magic/Worthy combo were better than Drexler/Porter. I dont know who would take Portland duo over Magic/Worthy. The rest are role players, Divac and Cliff both were sophomore, but Vlade with 2stl and 3blk against POR in WCF was way better player than Cliff. Scott/Perkins/ACGreen with their experience didnt give up to Kersey/Buck/Duckworth/Ainge. POR was TOP3 in DEF and OFF, LAL - TOP5 in RS, yes POR won RS, but teams like Magic LAL knew when to save energy and then to turn next gear.

Magic/Worthy duo is better because of Magic. Worthy was clearly worse than Drexler and Porter in 1991...


Yes, Porter was better than Worthy, but it doesnt mean that POR was more stacked team. Drexler and Magic suporting casts were about equal.

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