Rookie of The Year Thread

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Who are your top 3?

Anthony
6
2%
Ball
103
35%
Bey
13
4%
Edwards
25
9%
Haliburton
73
25%
Okoro
2
1%
Quickley
45
15%
Tate
3
1%
Williams
8
3%
Wiseman
15
5%
 
Total votes: 293

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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1141 » by LibertyKnicks00 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:25 am

Han Solo wrote:How did Saddiq Bey fall to 19?
Wanted Bey at 8th kid is good
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1142 » by GoBobs » Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:21 am

DCasey91 wrote:Anyone have Balls stats when he plays in the starting lineup or even 30+ mins? I bet they look superb for a rookie.

He is in my mind the runaway ROY now that he’s playing starter minutes. Definite all star talent, I wonder 3 years from now who will join him (Williams/Halliburton or even a darkhorse maybe?.

One things for sure he look the part. He has one the sickest floaters I’ve ever seen. One thing that surprised me with him and Luka was their scoring potential more so than young.

Knew they would be excellent passers/ballhandlers/rebounders/playmakers from day one. They are essentially huge PG’s. So the ceiling is extremely high.

But Ball looks like a 20/7/8 guy with above av defense (he’s got his brother’s defensive innate instincts just lengthier and taller). A taller/longer Jason Kidd is a scary player. Ball could very well be that.


As a Starter (6 game sample) 21.7 pts 5.3 reb 6.3 ast on 45/48/89 in 33 min per game
In 30+ minutes (9 game sample) 20.8 pts 6.4 reb 7.4 ast on 46/46/84 in 33 min per game
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1143 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:24 am

DCasey91 wrote:Anyone have Balls stats when he plays in the starting lineup or even 30+ mins? I bet they look superb for a rookie.

He is in my mind the runaway ROY now that he’s playing starter minutes. Definite all star talent, I wonder 3 years from now who will join him (Williams/Halliburton or even a darkhorse maybe?.

One things for sure he look the part. He has one the sickest floaters I’ve ever seen. One thing that surprised me with him and Luka was their scoring potential more so than young.

Knew they would be excellent passers/ballhandlers/rebounders/playmakers from day one. They are essentially huge PG’s. So the ceiling is extremely high.

But Ball looks like a 20/7/8 guy with above av defense (he’s got his brother’s defensive innate instincts just lengthier and taller). A taller/longer Jason Kidd is a scary player. Ball could very well be that.


Since getting in the starting lineup Ball is averaging right at 23, 6 and 6 on 49% shooting. Also averaging close to 2 steals a game.
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1144 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:25 am

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DCasey91 wrote:Anyone have Balls stats when he plays in the starting lineup or even 30+ mins? I bet they look superb for a rookie.

He is in my mind the runaway ROY now that he’s playing starter minutes. Definite all star talent, I wonder 3 years from now who will join him (Williams/Halliburton or even a darkhorse maybe?.

One things for sure he look the part. He has one the sickest floaters I’ve ever seen. One thing that surprised me with him and Luka was their scoring potential more so than young.

Knew they would be excellent passers/ballhandlers/rebounders/playmakers from day one. They are essentially huge PG’s. So the ceiling is extremely high.

But Ball looks like a 20/7/8 guy with above av defense (he’s got his brother’s defensive innate instincts just lengthier and taller). A taller/longer Jason Kidd is a scary player. Ball could very well be that.


Since getting in the starting lineup Ball is averaging right at 23, 6 and 6 on 49% shooting. Also averaging close to 2 steals a game.


Nevermind my man above me had more precise stats.
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1145 » by DCasey91 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:56 am

Thanks guys for putting up the stats.

Small sample size but the numbers look extremely promising going forward. Rookies hit a wall somewhat but man Ball plays with such energy and high motor plus being overseas and on a bad team last year I don’t think that it’ll impact him all that much. The shooting/shot selection narrative was right for him but it translated well but everything else was dead wrong. Lack of maturity, ego, poor attitude/ethic was bogus.

From watching last year he’s made a huge jump but it’s more of a technical aspect than a personality trait one. He flashed so much great potential and his floor was very high (like a suped up high energy bigger Rubio that needed direction (no
surprise he’s a kid, more than anything).

Would be exciting as heck for the hornets fans to make the playoffs finally for the team’s sake. Either way the future is very promising
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1146 » by JimmyPlopper » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:30 am

Ball is the runaway winner. Nearly unanimous. Halliburton runner up.
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1147 » by GSP » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:42 am

Han Solo wrote:How did Saddiq Bey fall to 19?


BrookLyn keeps taking Ls this season

LOL @ trading his draft rights for Landry Crapmet
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1148 » by JimmyPlopper » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:57 am

GSP wrote:
Han Solo wrote:How did Saddiq Bey fall to 19?


BrookLyn keeps taking Ls this season

LOL @ trading his draft rights for Landry Crapmet

Feels like a lot of teams could have used him (Boston included)
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1149 » by GSP » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:59 am

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GSP wrote:
Han Solo wrote:How did Saddiq Bey fall to 19?


BrookLyn keeps taking Ls this season

LOL @ trading his draft rights for Landry Crapmet

Feels like a lot of teams could have used him (Boston included)


Im happy with Pritchard. Perfect twoway guard to pair with the Jays and Smart for the next few years. Bey wouldve been nice but we didnt really need a forward
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1150 » by JimmyPlopper » Sat Feb 13, 2021 8:11 am

GSP wrote:
JimmyPlopper wrote:
GSP wrote:
BrookLyn keeps taking Ls this season

LOL @ trading his draft rights for Landry Crapmet

Feels like a lot of teams could have used him (Boston included)


Im happy with Pritchard. Perfect twoway guard to pair with the Jays and Smart for the next few years. Bey wouldve been nice but we didnt really need a forward


It's not Pritchard, but compared to Nesmith where they seemed to miss out. Nesmith has been slow going - hopefully he picks it up
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1151 » by oldshoolballer » Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:04 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Anyone have Balls stats when he plays in the starting lineup or even 30+ mins? I bet they look superb for a rookie.

He is in my mind the runaway ROY now that he’s playing starter minutes. Definite all star talent, I wonder 3 years from now who will join him (Williams/Halliburton or even a darkhorse maybe?.

One things for sure he look the part. He has one the sickest floaters I’ve ever seen. One thing that surprised me with him and Luka was their scoring potential more so than young.

Knew they would be excellent passers/ballhandlers/rebounders/playmakers from day one. They are essentially huge PG’s. So the ceiling is extremely high.

But Ball looks like a 20/7/8 guy with above av defense (he’s got his brother’s defensive innate instincts just lengthier and taller). A taller/longer Jason Kidd is a scary player. Ball could very well be that.


Since getting in the starting lineup Ball is averaging right at 23, 6 and 6 on 49% shooting. Also averaging close to 2 steals a game.

Lamelo is a game changer he's lifted the lowly Hornets into a playoff contender.
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1152 » by OrlChamps2030 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:15 pm

All things Considered, for what was being called one of the worst classes ever.. this class is turning out to be not so bad. I see multiple all stars that were selected in the lottery, and quite a few contributors (possibly more) that were drafted after the lottery
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1153 » by knicks85 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:26 pm

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Liver_Pooty wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Anyone have Balls stats when he plays in the starting lineup or even 30+ mins? I bet they look superb for a rookie.

He is in my mind the runaway ROY now that he’s playing starter minutes. Definite all star talent, I wonder 3 years from now who will join him (Williams/Halliburton or even a darkhorse maybe?.

One things for sure he look the part. He has one the sickest floaters I’ve ever seen. One thing that surprised me with him and Luka was their scoring potential more so than young.

Knew they would be excellent passers/ballhandlers/rebounders/playmakers from day one. They are essentially huge PG’s. So the ceiling is extremely high.

But Ball looks like a 20/7/8 guy with above av defense (he’s got his brother’s defensive innate instincts just lengthier and taller). A taller/longer Jason Kidd is a scary player. Ball could very well be that.


Since getting in the starting lineup Ball is averaging right at 23, 6 and 6 on 49% shooting. Also averaging close to 2 steals a game.

Lamelo is a game changer he's lifted the lowly Hornets into a playoff contender.

Pump the brakes brother....he's been good but not a game changer...hornets have had alot of overral improvement, from Rozier finally playing well again to gordon heyward becoming all star caliber again , to cody Zeller and miles bridges both lifting up thier own game
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1154 » by MotownMadness » Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:33 pm

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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1155 » by DS17 » Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:51 pm

After losing Christian wood for next to nothing, I’m happy the pistons have made some good decisions by drafting Bey, signing Grant, and Jackson.

They would have been a legit playoff team if they kept wood and traded the 8th(?) pick for another good player.

But I understand they have bitter goals in mind rather than being just a playoff team.
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1156 » by HotelVitale » Sat Feb 13, 2021 7:50 pm

DCasey91 wrote: Small sample size but the numbers look extremely promising going forward. Rookies hit a wall somewhat but man Ball plays with such energy and high motor plus being overseas and on a bad team last year I don’t think that it’ll impact him all that much.


I don't think he'll hit a wall and stop playing with energy, but that's different from being able to keep up 21/6/6 on 59% TS. Ball has pretty amazing feel, anticipation, etc so don't want to sell him short, I would still expect him to have some stretches where he's playing a lot worse than that. This isn't a scientific observation but it seems like rookies who aren't great shooters or dominant athletes tend to have more ups and down with their efficiency especially.
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1157 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Feb 14, 2021 1:31 am

knicks85 wrote:
oldshoolballer wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Since getting in the starting lineup Ball is averaging right at 23, 6 and 6 on 49% shooting. Also averaging close to 2 steals a game.

Lamelo is a game changer he's lifted the lowly Hornets into a playoff contender.

Pump the brakes brother....he's been good but not a game changer...hornets have had alot of overral improvement, from Rozier finally playing well again to gordon heyward becoming all star caliber again , to cody Zeller and miles bridges both lifting up thier own game


Lol. Hes absolutely been a game changer.
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1159 » by Skyyr » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:44 am

Ben Simmons would get my vote for sure. If not Simmons then Quickley.
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Re: Rookie of The Year Thread 

Post#1160 » by Klomp » Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:48 am

As a reserve, Anthony Edwards was averaging 13.0/2.8/1.6 on .355/.304/.816 on 26.9 usage in 25.2 mpg (88 ORtg / 120 DRtg)
As a starter, Anthony Edwards is averaging 16.4/4.4/3.2 on .429/.358/.789 on 22.7 usage in 31.1 mpg (108 ORtg / 115 DRtg)

He's played a total of 106 minutes with Karl-Anthony Towns.
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