Interesting Wednesday - 01/13/2021 GAME THREAD

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Pick the winners

Poll ended at Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:48 pm

Nets
8
18%
Knicks
2
4%
Grizzlies
6
13%
Timberwolves
3
7%
Lakers
8
18%
Thunder
1
2%
Pelicans
2
4%
Clippers
6
13%
Trail Blazers
6
13%
Kings
3
7%
 
Total votes: 45

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Post#121 » by nzahir » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:15 am

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Circumstances matter. Luka started the season without KP. Now the Mavs are missing 3 starters due to COVID protocols. If the Mavs manage to stay in the top 3-4 it could be enough for the MVP award.
LeBron is the best player in the world until proven otherwise in the playoffs but we all know that the MVP award is not always given to the best player.

How about these circumstances:

Lebron just beat the bucks and clips the final week of the season and was a beast

Giannis was hurt and was about to miss weeks with his ankle injury

Lebron was about to win the mvp but covid circumstances robbed him and then the bubble games didn't matter so there was no chance to even win it

Can't have a double standard now with covid, the results are the results

MVPs are always a top 2 seed besides Russ who had the historic triple double season since Oscar and had the narrative story since KD left


Not really sure how that relates to the current situation and the way voters will act
I already mentioned that LeBron is the best player until proven otherwise but based on the vote results in the last few years that´s not always enough. LeBron will probably have the best player on the best team in the west narrative and usually that is enough but he also has one of if not the best supporting casts and easily the best 2nd option.
Giannis numbers are just as good as they used to be and he will probably be the best player in the east again. Making his case just as good as LBJ. I expect voters to give it to LBJ in that case because Giannis won the last two.
Lukas case is that he has to do more than both. He is carrying a bigger load than both and if the Mavs finish top 3-4 in the west that might be enough.

You basically answered everything for me

Award also usually goes to the best player on one of the top few teams

Is AD better than Harden? He isn't a better #1, that is clear, but maybe he is a better #2 b/c of off-ball scoring and defense. Arguable, but an actual question

But it won't matter honestly, many great players have one with the best #2s next to them.

MJ, Magic, Bird

Lebron in 2012 won an mvp when Wade was still a top 10 guy

Man Lebron has a chance this year to be a 5x mvp, 5x champion, a 4-5xfmvp and possibly beating another all time great superteam if they beat Bkn

I can see the Bucks or Sixers beating the Nets though tbh, will be close.
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Post#122 » by Coxy » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:18 am

Poor Wolves.
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Post#123 » by twozeroMM » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:18 am

When does Minny consider blowing it up?
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Post#124 » by Young Stapler » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:18 am

Timberwolves play no defense yikes!
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Post#125 » by xb3at band1tx » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:18 am

Capn'O wrote:Lakers fans, I have good news and bad news for you and it's the same news. You've become the Spurs.

:lol:
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Post#126 » by zimpy27 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:20 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
xb3at band1tx wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Who said that?

Its probably Jeff Green or KD.

Its not like the Lakers have anyone who can guard Kyrie or Harden.

But LA at least has bodies to throw at them to at least keep them honest.

BKN has no one for Davis or Bron


Jeff Green and KD can be bodies to throw at Bron.

For AD it has to be Jordan. I think he can play himself into better shape. He was really good tonight.

Don't forget the Nets also have the MLE and disabled player exception to use. They can add some buyout guys.


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Post#127 » by Hello Brooklyn » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:21 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
xb3at band1tx wrote:But LA at least has bodies to throw at them to at least keep them honest.

BKN has no one for Davis or Bron


Jeff Green and KD can be bodies to throw at Bron.

For AD it has to be Jordan. I think he can play himself into better shape. He was really good tonight.

Don't forget the Nets also have the MLE and disabled player exception to use. They can add some buyout guys.


My first thought was Dedmon


Good idea. I had no clue he was even a Free Agent.
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Post#128 » by mademan » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:23 am

man, between the offseason and the start of the season, Lakers look like a team that lost in the playoffs. No championship hangover whatsoever
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Post#129 » by zonedefense » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:25 am

nzahir wrote:
zonedefense wrote:
nzahir wrote:How about these circumstances:

Lebron just beat the bucks and clips the final week of the season and was a beast

Giannis was hurt and was about to miss weeks with his ankle injury

Lebron was about to win the mvp but covid circumstances robbed him and then the bubble games didn't matter so there was no chance to even win it

Can't have a double standard now with covid, the results are the results

MVPs are always a top 2 seed besides Russ who had the historic triple double season since Oscar and had the narrative story since KD left


Not really sure how that relates to the current situation and the way voters will act
I already mentioned that LeBron is the best player until proven otherwise but based on the vote results in the last few years that´s not always enough. LeBron will probably have the best player on the best team in the west narrative and usually that is enough but he also has one of if not the best supporting casts and easily the best 2nd option.
Giannis numbers are just as good as they used to be and he will probably be the best player in the east again. Making his case just as good as LBJ. I expect voters to give it to LBJ in that case because Giannis won the last two.
Lukas case is that he has to do more than both. He is carrying a bigger load than both and if the Mavs finish top 3-4 in the west that might be enough.

You basically answered everything for me

Award also usually goes to the best player on one of the top few teams

Is AD better than Harden? He isn't a better #1, that is clear, but maybe he is a better #2 b/c of off-ball scoring and defense. Arguable, but an actual question

But it won't matter honestly, many great players have one with the best #2s next to them.

MJ, Magic, Bird

Lebron in 2012 won an mvp when Wade was still a top 10 guy

Man Lebron has a chance this year to be a 5x mvp, 5x champion, a 4-5xfmvp and possibly beating another all time great superteam if they beat Bkn

I can see the Bucks or Sixers beating the Nets though tbh, will be close.


I am not trying to burst your bubble. Just saying that it might not be as clear as you think. This isn´t the right thread for this conversation anyway so I will rest my case.
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Post#130 » by Young Stapler » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:26 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
xb3at band1tx wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Who said that?

Its probably Jeff Green or KD.

Its not like the Lakers have anyone who can guard Kyrie or Harden.

But LA at least has bodies to throw at them to at least keep them honest.

BKN has no one for Davis or Bron


Jeff Green and KD can be bodies to throw at Bron.

For AD it has to be Jordan. I think he can play himself into better shape. He was really good tonight.

Don't forget the Nets also have the MLE and disabled player exception to use. They can add some buyout guys.

Not a huge believer in Jordan personally. Not so sure about Green against a laser focused Lebron come playoff time but yeah you do have the opportunity to get someone else. If this Finals happens it will be epic no doubt. Lakers will be ready for the battle :D
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Post#131 » by VCfor3 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:27 am

Good game Wolves! Rubio being scared to shoot the second half was killer especially when Beas and Dlo started to cool off.
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Post#132 » by Liam_Gallagher » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:30 am

Nobody’s beating the Lakers this year.
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Post#133 » by RoundMoundOfReb » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:31 am

Wolves are so bad. How do you give up 38 in the 4th to this shorthanded grizz team?
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Post#134 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:34 am

nice easy win and bron only played 27m and ad 25min
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Post#135 » by heezyo2o » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:35 am

A young Kennard looks older than JJ redick (they were guarding each other just now)
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Post#136 » by Tracymcgoaty » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:37 am

Capn'O wrote:Lakers fans, I have good news and bad news for you and it's the same news. You've become the Spurs.


Which version of the spurs? 2014? If so we're winning the chip.
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Post#137 » by Capn'O » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:40 am

Tracymcgoaty wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Lakers fans, I have good news and bad news for you and it's the same news. You've become the Spurs.


Which version of the spurs? 2014? If so we're winning the chip.


You're still my pick
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Post#138 » by Ballerhogger » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:40 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Young Stapler wrote:Im told Joe Harris will be checking Lebron in the Finals. Gonna have him on lock and key according that very large thread below.Good luck :lol:


Who said that?

Its probably Jeff Green or KD.

Its not like the Lakers have anyone who can guard Kyrie or Harden.

:lol: did you watch last night game? or the bubble games?
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Post#139 » by Young Stapler » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:44 am

JJ spamming these ridiculous 3s
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Post#140 » by heezyo2o » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:44 am

Ballerhogger wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
Young Stapler wrote:Im told Joe Harris will be checking Lebron in the Finals. Gonna have him on lock and key according that very large thread below.Good luck :lol:


Who said that?

Its probably Jeff Green or KD.

Its not like the Lakers have anyone who can guard Kyrie or Harden.

:lol: did you watch last night game? or the bubble games?


I'm a Laker fan, but if Jamal Murray can go off against the Lakers in the playoffs, then I'm sure Kyrie and Harden can do the same especially if you have to worry about KD.

Guarding Harden on the Nets will be way different than focusing on him on the Rockets last playoffs.

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