[WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind

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Re: [WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind 

Post#641 » by og15 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:39 am

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CallMeKahn wrote::o 8 picks? :lol:

Pick swaps are not really "trading picks". A pick swap is only valuable if the other team is worse than you, and the other team still gets a pick, just a lower one. 4 of the pick are swaps, 21, 23, 25, 27. Who knows about 25 and 27, but very unlikely that BKN would want to swap in 21 or 23.


It still is, in essence, a pick that is not under the team's control, hence being counted as part of the pick haul.

8 picks. :crazy: :lol: :lol: :lol:

So what? By the end of the season the team will know where it stands in terms of its pick based on records. It's not really a big deal. I mean saying 8 picks makes it seem larger than it is, but it's lacking important context.
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Re: [WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind 

Post#642 » by DTP » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:39 am

I hate this trade for some many reasons...

1) Harden gets exactly what he wanted going to play with KD. Yes Houston trade him, but don't send him where he wants to go especially if this is the deal you're getting back. Simmons, Maxey, Thybulle and pick swaps alone is a much better deal imo.

2) The league was pretty balanced, everyone had 2 guys. Now this Big 3 crap that we've seen the last decade....its not fun anymore. League is a lot more fun without the super teams.
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Re: [WOJ/SHAMS] HARDEN TO BROOKLYN NETS.... 

Post#643 » by og15 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:41 am

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First Step wrote:Wow, Levert and who?

Harden required to jog to Brooklyn to shed the pounds, per sources.

Rockets got hosed. Picks in the late 1st round and Oladipo for an ATG?


The Nets gave the Rockets 8 years worth of picks and swaps. The Nets aren't going to be a dominant team for the next 8 years. Later on some of those picks are going to be good.
That's generally the point in trades like this, if the team just takes picks in the immediate future, then they are trading a superstar for a good player and some low picks, which is not really a good trade. The further in future picks and swaps are the "hope" part of the trade.
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Re: [WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind 

Post#644 » by dreamer3kx » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:42 am

All three of these dudes are going to be gone in few years, better win two chips, this will be epic fail.
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Re: [WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind 

Post#645 » by righterwriter » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 am

Now Kyrie for Westbrook (and a bunch of picks, of course) and we'll be in full bizarro OKC in BKN world.
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Re: [WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind 

Post#646 » by Vampirate » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:They pretty much got Harden for free because those pick won't amount to much because the team will be so good. plus Brooklyn doesn't need picks when they have people that are always willing to sign there


Picks 2021-2023 I agree with you, picks 2024-2027 though is a different issue as harden and KD will be around there mid 30s by then if they are still on the team.
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Post#647 » by Brooklyn91 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:48 am

Who was that that said our package wasn’t going to do squat? Are package got it done babyyyyy
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Trademark, actually. :)
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Post#651 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:16 am

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Well...you get to look forward to the draft. The problem is Fertitta. The team isn't likely to field a contender soon. If they do, then you have to worry that Tilman won't pay to keep the band together. Don't know what else to say? :wink:
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Re: [WOJ/SHAMS] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind 

Post#653 » by Brooklyn91 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:23 am

Sixers really didn’t give up Ben wow.

I told y’all in the other thread it all came down to what the 76ers were willing to give up.
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Re: [WOJ] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, and 4 Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind 

Post#654 » by SecondTake » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:45 am

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Alatan wrote:Lol i hate it for both teams. Rockets got a bunch of maybes and the Nets lost all their defense and depth. I cant wait for Irving and Harden killing each other for the ball and Durant getting depressed.


Kyrie will not be happy with this and that can kill team chemistry. Makes him a third option.


Why would Kyrie be the third option though?
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Post#655 » by dribble1614 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:46 am

what an earthquake deal that has altered the power balance of the nba in a way we have rarely seen. brooklyn nets are a powerhouse team now! who cares about kyrie - with or without him the Nets are coming out of the east.
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Post#656 » by dribble1614 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:47 am

giannis really blew it re-signing with milwaukee. he will end up like nash, malone and other greats who have never won a title (unlike malone i really have serious doubts he'll even ever make a finals)
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Re: [WOJ] 4 Way Blockbuster, Harden to BK, Prince and Allen to Cavs, Oladipo, Exum, and 4 Picks to Hou, Levert to Ind 

Post#657 » by KyRo23 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:56 am

SecondTake wrote:
lautreamont wrote:
Alatan wrote:Lol i hate it for both teams. Rockets got a bunch of maybes and the Nets lost all their defense and depth. I cant wait for Irving and Harden killing each other for the ball and Durant getting depressed.


Kyrie will not be happy with this and that can kill team chemistry. Makes him a third option.


Why would Kyrie be the third option though?


Because they have Harden and KD lol easy as that
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Post#658 » by mademan » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:57 am

dribble1614 wrote:giannis really blew it re-signing with milwaukee. he will end up like nash, malone and other greats who have never won a title (unlike malone i really have serious doubts he'll even ever make a finals)


Nets can obviously win, and they clearly have more talent, but i like the way Giannis and the Bucks matchup with them. Giannis has no excuse not be ridiculously dominant that series, and they are very strong 1-2-3 defensively
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Post#659 » by Packbuckman » Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:03 am

AdriLaker wrote:Poor Giannis...he won't reach the NBA finals ever lol


:lol: Even with Harden Bucks match up well offensively and are a way better defensive team. This team with Holiday at pg is a godsend over Bledsoe and is a way better shooting team over 20 3’s again tonite.

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