Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move?

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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#81 » by BlueNGold » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:08 am

Catchall wrote:
LakersSoul wrote:
Catchall wrote:Can't ignore the fact that the Nets have three of the top-10 offensive players in the league if they gel.

Also can't ignore that the Lakers have limited trade assets.


The problem is there is only 1 ball and all 3 need the ball in their hands. Image the ego battles between Kyrie and Harden then KD does his passive aggressive stuff.

What a circus that will become. Who is going to play D and who is going to defend the rim now? The loss of Allen is HUGE!!


The Warriors made it work with Steph, KD and Klay. I'm assuming these Team USA guys will play nice with one another. They do need some depth and defense, but good luck trying to guard those three at the same time. You're talking about Harden drawing doubles and kicking out to Durant for open looks. They need Deandre Jordan to get engaged and play well on both ends.

With D'Antoni on the Nets' bench, there's a lot of potential to make this work.


What an asinine comparison.

Steph and Klay are two of the most unselfish players in the league. Also, at least Klay plays strong defense.

Harden and Kyrie are two of the most selfish players in the league. Also, neither plays defense.

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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#82 » by Catchall » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:17 am

BlueNGold wrote:
Catchall wrote:
LakersSoul wrote:
The problem is there is only 1 ball and all 3 need the ball in their hands. Image the ego battles between Kyrie and Harden then KD does his passive aggressive stuff.

What a circus that will become. Who is going to play D and who is going to defend the rim now? The loss of Allen is HUGE!!


The Warriors made it work with Steph, KD and Klay. I'm assuming these Team USA guys will play nice with one another. They do need some depth and defense, but good luck trying to guard those three at the same time. You're talking about Harden drawing doubles and kicking out to Durant for open looks. They need Deandre Jordan to get engaged and play well on both ends.

With D'Antoni on the Nets' bench, there's a lot of potential to make this work.


What an asinine comparison.

Steph and Klay are two of the most unselfish players in the league. Also, at least Klay plays strong defense.

Harden and Kyrie are two of the most selfish players in the league. Also, neither plays defense.

Think, man. Think.


James Harden is 2nd in the league in assists, even in his current funk. He's not a selfish player. He's one of the best shot creators there is. Having Harden on the ball with KD on the wing and Kyrie as an isolation scorer is a pretty ideal offensive set up.

And Steph needs to be hidden on defense, so... Yeah, at least Klay plays defense, and the Warriors had Draymond and Iguodala. Defense will be the question for the Nets. Offense won't be.

They just need Deandre Jordan and Nic Claxton to defend, or they're going to need to make another move. Harris should come off the bench.
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#83 » by vxmike » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:21 am

Catchall wrote:Can't ignore the fact that the Nets have three of the top-10 offensive players in the league if they gel.

Also can't ignore that the Lakers have limited trade assets.


Lakers have two top 10 players including the best player in the league. They have a TON of depth compared to BKN.

Lakers will be fine. How is Brooklyn defending Lebron and AD?
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#84 » by TinmanZBoy » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:23 am

wait until the Nets has a chance to beat Lakers... I just don't see it so far...
Harden and Kyrie will cancel each other a lot on offense, and the Nets are getting worse on defense without Allen
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#85 » by Blacksheep25 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:28 am

Why? They’re still better than Nets. Plus there is probably 65% chance Nets don’t get there with their 3 stars healthy anyway.
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#86 » by dakomish23 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:52 am

MindState wrote:
iamworthy wrote::lol: Lakers will be fine as is.


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Bruh. :lol:

Its a wrap. A 58 year old LeBron aint beating that Nets team. I dont know what else to tell you.


These type of takes never age well
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#87 » by DroseReturnChi » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:34 am

I think they need a player like Lavine. Maybe 2 frps and 4 swaps??
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#88 » by Beethoven » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:50 am

MindState wrote:
iamworthy wrote::lol: Lakers will be fine as is.


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Bruh. :lol:

Its a wrap. A 58 year old LeBron aint beating that Nets team. I dont know what else to tell you.

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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#89 » by Karmaloop » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:08 am

Catchall wrote:James Harden is 2nd in the league in assists, even in his current funk. He's not a selfish player. He's one of the best shot creators there is. Having Harden on the ball with KD on the wing and Kyrie as an isolation scorer is a pretty ideal offensive set up.


Because James Harden was Houston's offense. In the previous 3 seasons, his USG% never dropped below 36% and was as high as 40.5%. Steph Curry's USG% peak was 32.6% back during the '15/'16 season, ironically the year before Durant got there. His USG% with Durant there was around 30.5%. Klay Thompson's USG% has never gone above 28%.
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#90 » by Metallikid » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:13 am

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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#91 » by mszymko » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:14 am

It's an arms race. Yes, they should pursue the 3rd star.
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#92 » by heezyo2o » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:22 am

Catchall wrote:James Harden is 2nd in the league in assists, even in his current funk. He's not a selfish player. He's one of the best shot creators there is. Having Harden on the ball with KD on the wing and Kyrie as an isolation scorer is a pretty ideal offensive set up.


Harden shouldn't just dribble away and make KD and Kyrie spot up shooters.

Harden and Kyrie both need like 5-6 dribbles before they make a move. I don't think that style wins a championship. One of those guys has to sacrifice and change their game a bit. That team should use a lot of ball movement instead of guys taking turns on ISO
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#93 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:24 am

No, the Nets can’t stop anybody and zero answers for LeBron or AD. Lakers need to play their game and will be more than fine. Plus the Lakers have great chemistry while the Nets chemistry is a dumpster fire and just pours Harden brand gasoline onto it. Lakers in 5, assuming the Nets can get past Philly.
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#94 » by lambchop » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:25 am

They will need their depth and length to defend and compete. No use giving up KCP, THT, Caruso, Dennis, Kuzma for DeAngelo Russell and Jr Smith.

They would be better off with Danny green than Schroeder now though
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#95 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:29 am

lambchop wrote:They will need their depth and length to defend and compete. No use giving up KCP, THT, Caruso, Dennis, Kuzma for DeAngelo Russell and Jr Smith.

They would be better off with Danny green than Schroeder now though


Are you kidding me? A guy like Schroeder is perfect to attack Kyrie on those nights he doesn’t feel like playing basketball. When he is pissed the Nets are making him play a finals game instead of being able to attend a luncheon for the flat earth society.
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#96 » by C3H6N6O6 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:29 am

Nets can win it all if Kyrie and Harden are happy seeing their usage rate go down.
I don't know about Harden but Kyrie might hate being called the 3rd best player on the Nets if they manage to win. He hated being called the second best player on a championship team.
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#97 » by LBC SoCal » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:30 am

Lakers don’t need to do anything drastic. Keep the depth as is.

The Nets may look good on paper but they need to worry first about whether they gel because they still have to deal with the Bucks/Heat/Celtics/76ers. Eastern conference is tougher this year.
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#98 » by xinxin » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:31 am

JB2 wrote:
MindState wrote:No. They should enjoy their summer league title from last year and let LeBron age gracefully into the sunlight while getting beat down by KD in the finals for his few final years.


You're full of gems but seems like when it comes time to talking LeBron and/or Lakers, your Bron hate has you looking like a fool. Might want to re-calibrate your viewpoint.

Here are some more of your previous gems.

Regarding AD declining a mex offer from Lakers in Jan 2020:
He gone.


Lakers playing the Rockets:
The Rockets absolutely terrified me as a Warriors fan. The only team over our 3 year run with KD that I was legitimately scared would beat us. Every game was full of anxiety and felt like could go either way.

If I were a Lakers fan I would be legitimately concerned.


If the lakers would win a title:
If you think this Lakers team is staying healthy enough to win a title you are dreaming.

The entire team is injury prone.


Should the NBA be scared of the lakers:
Bradley, Rondo, and Howard are possibly the 3 most injury prone players in the entire league.

There is a 0% chance the Lakers will have all 3 available going into the playoffs. The Laker team you see next summer will be LeBron and AD dragging complete scrubs to the playoffs. It isnt gonna be enough.


Lakeres interviewing Juwan Howard:
Sad. Lakers are a storied franchise and let a 35 year old LeBron at the tail end of his career come in and completey take over the organization, like they are the Sacramento Kings or something.

Poor Laker fans. Dont worry, only 3 more years of LeBron and the circus he brought to town.


On whether the lakes (pre-AD) should have considered trading LeBron:
Bron is just an empty stats guy at this point. His time has come and gone. Fans really need to lower their expectations.



busted..... kinda pathetic if you ask me..


on topic though, Lakers would be fine. aside from accumulating talent, finding chemistry is as important.. just ask the clippers last year.

Lakers appear to have players that have completely bought in to the system of Vogel and staff. probably only weakness is some rim protection to spot AD or Gasol at times. but other than that.. their top 5 ratings for both offense and defense, show that these boys are ripe for a repeat.
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#99 » by Barnzy » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:31 am

I mean what star you getting for Schroder, KCP and THT?

The Lakers role players are more valuable in their system than anything realistic they could get. I think they're good with what they got.
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Re: Should the Lakers trade their depth/future for a 3rd star to counter Net's move? 

Post#100 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:35 am

Catchall wrote:
BlueNGold wrote:
Catchall wrote:
The Warriors made it work with Steph, KD and Klay. I'm assuming these Team USA guys will play nice with one another. They do need some depth and defense, but good luck trying to guard those three at the same time. You're talking about Harden drawing doubles and kicking out to Durant for open looks. They need Deandre Jordan to get engaged and play well on both ends.

With D'Antoni on the Nets' bench, there's a lot of potential to make this work.


What an asinine comparison.

Steph and Klay are two of the most unselfish players in the league. Also, at least Klay plays strong defense.

Harden and Kyrie are two of the most selfish players in the league. Also, neither plays defense.

Think, man. Think.


James Harden is 2nd in the league in assists, even in his current funk. He's not a selfish player. He's one of the best shot creators there is. Having Harden on the ball with KD on the wing and Kyrie as an isolation scorer is a pretty ideal offensive set up.

And Steph needs to be hidden on defense, so... Yeah, at least Klay plays defense, and the Warriors had Draymond and Iguodala. Defense will be the question for the Nets. Offense won't be.

They just need Deandre Jordan and Nic Claxton to defend, or they're going to need to make another move. Harris should come off the bench.


Harden literally dominates and holds the ball continuously and then stands 40 feet from the basket when the rare plays that aren’t called for him.

And Steph needs to be hidden on defense...umm where do you hide Harden, Kyrie and Harris backed up by a center that can’t move anymore and can’t guard a paper bag in space? You need to hide the whole damn team on defense :lol: :lol: :lol:

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