Randle vs. Porzingis

Moderators: jamaalstar21, infinite11285, BombsquadSammy, ken6199, Domejandro, bwgood77, Dirk, zimpy27, KingDavid

RoxSteady
Senior
Posts: 724
And1: 2,419
Joined: Jul 22, 2019
 

Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#1 » by RoxSteady » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:03 pm

Most people would rather have Porzingis on their team, and that's a fair take. But I think it's worth pointing out that Randle (who came to NY through cap space freed up by the Porzingis trade, I believe) is only 9 months older than KP; has played in every game at an average of 37 mpg; and is averaging almost 23, 11, and 7. Probably playing better D than earlier in his career too.

The Knicks didn't sign KD and Kyrie; DSJ hasn't been good so far; the Mavs' picks the Knicks will receive likely will not be lottery picks; but think I think Randle's play makes the KP trade look a little better in retrospect and once again proves my theory that Frank Isola is always wrong:
Read on Twitter
rand
Rookie
Posts: 1,124
And1: 1,320
Joined: Jun 28, 2013

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#2 » by rand » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:20 pm

I'd rather have Randle. KP is better defensively, Randle better offensively, by similar margins. But KP appears to have plateaued while Randle has found yet another level to his offensive game. Randle is also much more durable.
OrangeBlueSkies
Veteran
Posts: 2,916
And1: 1,935
Joined: Jul 22, 2013

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#3 » by OrangeBlueSkies » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:25 pm

[gfycat][/gfycat]
rand wrote:I'd rather have Randle. KP is better defensively, Randle better offensively, by similar margins. But KP appears to have plateaued while Randle has found yet another level to his offensive game. Randle is also much more durable.




We could have both. But if Randle is a Knick for beyond the foreseeable future, I’d pick him because of a variable of reasons: will be a more team friendly contract, no health concerns, a willing passer.


It’s hard to say KP made him teammates better.

There’s no denying that KP has elite rim protection and shooting abilities. It’s tough, but I wouldn’t want the Knicks committed to KP contractually & watch him sit on the bench for 50% of every season.
Apse4
Sophomore
Posts: 101
And1: 74
Joined: Jun 29, 2019

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#4 » by Apse4 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:28 pm

Easy. Porzingis.
User avatar
Phreak50
Analyst
Posts: 3,541
And1: 5,674
Joined: Feb 01, 2014

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#5 » by Phreak50 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:29 pm

It's funny he was labelled a unicorn, because they don't exist, just like his games played.
Muha_i_samolet
Senior
Posts: 715
And1: 588
Joined: Nov 27, 2020

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#6 » by Muha_i_samolet » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:31 pm

Randle easily. As they say "best ability is availability".
User avatar
_qubik
Rookie
Posts: 1,235
And1: 643
Joined: Sep 21, 2020
   

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#7 » by _qubik » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:33 pm

If Randle keeps playing like this, and is still the same guy when the team is ready to compete, I see no problem in taking him. KP has a lot of health issues, he is better, a great shooter and rim protector, the best combining these traits for me. But Randle is putting nice number with nice efficieny while being durable
OrangeBlueSkies
Veteran
Posts: 2,916
And1: 1,935
Joined: Jul 22, 2013

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#8 » by OrangeBlueSkies » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:34 pm

Btw OP, you definitely are trying to get some Zinger hate cause you know us Knicks fans don’t come nice :)
User avatar
3toheadmelo
RealGM
Posts: 50,888
And1: 57,034
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
 

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#9 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:34 pm

Definitely Randle.
Cavs Nation
PG: Jamal Murray/ Schroder
SG: Zach Lavine/Dunn
SF: Jayson Tatum/Hart
PF: Bam Adebayo/Tate
C: Deandre Ayton/ Randle


It's like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain't directed directly at me, I don't respect it
OrangeBlueSkies
Veteran
Posts: 2,916
And1: 1,935
Joined: Jul 22, 2013

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#10 » by OrangeBlueSkies » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:35 pm

_qubik wrote:If Randle keeps playing like this, and is still the same guy when the team is ready to compete, I see no problem in taking him. KP has a lot of health issues, he is better, a great shooter and rim protector, the best combining these traits for me. But Randle is putting nice number with nice efficieny while being durable



Although we lost last night, Randle has a really good mid range shot. It’s a breath of fresh air in today’s NBA and actually entertaining to watch KD & Randle go mid range for mid range last night.
urgal
Rookie
Posts: 1,155
And1: 1,651
Joined: Aug 17, 2012
 

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#11 » by urgal » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:38 pm

Tank commander vs. Unicorn.

Hard decision.
User avatar
3toheadmelo
RealGM
Posts: 50,888
And1: 57,034
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
 

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#12 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:39 pm

The most impressive part about Randle is that he’s putting up 23/11/7 while getting double and triple teamed hard every single game. When we had KP as the first option he struggled.
Cavs Nation
PG: Jamal Murray/ Schroder
SG: Zach Lavine/Dunn
SF: Jayson Tatum/Hart
PF: Bam Adebayo/Tate
C: Deandre Ayton/ Randle


It's like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain't directed directly at me, I don't respect it
User avatar
_qubik
Rookie
Posts: 1,235
And1: 643
Joined: Sep 21, 2020
   

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#13 » by _qubik » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:40 pm

OrangeBlueSkies wrote:
_qubik wrote:If Randle keeps playing like this, and is still the same guy when the team is ready to compete, I see no problem in taking him. KP has a lot of health issues, he is better, a great shooter and rim protector, the best combining these traits for me. But Randle is putting nice number with nice efficieny while being durable



Although we lost last night, Randle has a really good mid range shot. It’s a breath of fresh air in today’s NBA and actually entertaining to watch KD & Randle go mid range for mid range last night.


I watched the game, its true, its entertaining to see different shots with guys that can take them. Both guys were a joy watch
juanc
Senior
Posts: 608
And1: 585
Joined: Apr 10, 2017
 

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#14 » by juanc » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:42 pm

Let's not forget that the Mavs got the 3 best players in that trade :lol:





OrangeBlueSkies
Veteran
Posts: 2,916
And1: 1,935
Joined: Jul 22, 2013

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#15 » by OrangeBlueSkies » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:43 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:The most impressive part about Randle is that he’s putting up 23/11/7 while getting double and triple teamed hard every single game. When we had KP as the first option he struggled.


Great point but that’s what makes Randle so great. The willingness to pass. Imagine just in that department, in the willingness to pass department, imagine we could of turned up that attribute on Prime NYK Carmelo to 99. He would of averaged 8 APG
OrangeBlueSkies
Veteran
Posts: 2,916
And1: 1,935
Joined: Jul 22, 2013

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#16 » by OrangeBlueSkies » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:44 pm

juanc wrote:Let's not forget that the Mavs got the 3 best players in that trade :lol:








I suppose, but Luka ain’t winning with EITHER of those dudes. KP has a contract that will hinder DAL.
Johnny Tomala
Rookie
Posts: 1,148
And1: 939
Joined: May 04, 2017
     

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#17 » by Johnny Tomala » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:46 pm

Porziņģis is much better player, Knicks should have kept him at all cost.
User avatar
3toheadmelo
RealGM
Posts: 50,888
And1: 57,034
Joined: Feb 15, 2015
 

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#18 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:51 pm

Johnny Tomala wrote:Porziņģis is much better player, Knicks should have kept him at all cost.

No he’s not :lol: rather have Randle thanks
Cavs Nation
PG: Jamal Murray/ Schroder
SG: Zach Lavine/Dunn
SF: Jayson Tatum/Hart
PF: Bam Adebayo/Tate
C: Deandre Ayton/ Randle


It's like when lil bitches make subliminal records, if it ain't directed directly at me, I don't respect it
dzumaal
Sophomore
Posts: 228
And1: 218
Joined: Sep 01, 2017

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#19 » by dzumaal » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:52 pm

Randle. Good enough to be the third guy on a big three. Porzingis is good enough to be the second guy but if you can't count on the second guy to actually play you don't really have a big three.
dirkforpres
RealGM
Posts: 10,140
And1: 4,926
Joined: Sep 13, 2005
   

Re: Randle vs. Porzingis 

Post#20 » by dirkforpres » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:54 pm

Factoring health and contract in, Randle is the easy answer.

If/when they’re paid the same next year, I’d rather have Porzingis
FIRE RICK CARLISLE

Return to The General Board