Is Luka-Sorry, the Mavericks going to miss the playoffs?

Some smartguy · Post #1 » by **Some smartguy** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:03 pm

Luka has been a one-man team offensively. They've been missing a lot of their players, but even when everyone was healthy, they didn't seem very good. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Dallas fan, but this year the Mavs have been hard to watch. I know it might be too early to start talking about this, but the Mavericks are really, really bad.

Karate Diop · Post #2 » by **Karate Diop** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:05 pm

The surrounding talent is bad. KP was a worthwhile gamble but hasn't worked out, they need to reset around Luka. THJ is fool's gold.

Merc_Porto · Post #3 » by **Merc_Porto** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:06 pm

Of course not.

Riot Randolph · Post #4 » by **Riot Randolph** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:08 pm

While I can't stand kp this is premature...they will get it together and people will talk about how crazy this talk was about them missing the playoffs

KqWIN · Post #5 » by **KqWIN** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:08 pm

Half their team isn't there, and 2/3 of their games have been on the road. They will be fine.

Merc_Porto · Post #6 » by **Merc_Porto** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:11 pm

Karate Diop wrote:The surrounding talent is bad. KP was a worthwhile gamble but hasn't worked out, they need to reset around Luka. THJ is fool's gold.

A core of Luka, Porzingis along with...

Kleber
Hardaway Jr
Richardson
Finney Smith
Brunson

Is pretty good actually.

But they also have really bad contracts there. Starting with Powell, i never got it. I don't even know if he deserves a place in the NBA. Leve alone what he's earning...

BoardCrusher · Post #7 » by **BoardCrusher** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:11 pm

talk about over reacting, 18 games in the season and you talking about missing the playoffs, with the 2nd easiest schedule remaining.
We just got back 2 starters that missed the last 5 games, still missing 1 starter couse of covid...
talk about over reacting....

whatever_ · Post #8 » by **whatever_** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:12 pm

Well, the fact that THJ is their second biggest offensive weapon is not very promising.

Porzingis plays like an undersized SG instead of attacking the rim. I'm fed up with his style.

Post #9 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:13 pm

I'm confused by the wording in the title. Are you asking if Luka is sorry if the Mavs miss the playoffs? I mean I think obviously the answer would be yes.

CKB · Post #10 » by **CKB** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:14 pm

Powell is horrible. THJ is super streaky. KP can't make post shots or execute pick n roll plays. He is horrible at his size as a rebounder. No chemistry between Luka and KP right now. Mavs are missing Seth Curry's 3 point prowess.

Some smartguy · Post #11 » by **Some smartguy** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:16 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I'm confused by the wording in the title. Are you asking if Luka is sorry if the Mavs miss the playoffs? I mean I think obviously the answer would be yes.

The dash indicates a break in thought. It's insinuating that Luka is the whole Mavericks team.

Post #12 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:16 pm

mercgold3 wrote:But they also have really bad contracts there. Starting with Powell, i never got it. I don't even know if he deserves a place in the NBA. Leve alone what he's earning...

Huh? Powell is a bad contract, yes, but if you aren't counting KP as one, then they don't have any others at all.

As to Powell the extension felt like bidding against themselves and pretty much no Mavs fan liked it at the time. But prior to his injury he was an elite role man and his on/off numbers showed a productive player if you kept him to a limited role. He was a slightly overpaid but useful rotation player. Now with the injury, yeah he's useless because his game depending on being the kind of vertical threat he no longer is.

But everyone else is on a value contract save THJ I suppose, but he's only overpaid by a few million and his contract expires. Bad contracts aren't the Mavs issue---lack of top end talent beyond Luka very much is.

Post #13 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:17 pm

Some smartguy wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:I'm confused by the wording in the title. Are you asking if Luka is sorry if the Mavs miss the playoffs? I mean I think obviously the answer would be yes.

The dash indicates a break in thought. It's insinuating that Luka is the whole Mavericks team.

Gotcha that makes sense now that you point it out. I'm clearly slow...

I think they probably don't fall out of the play-in games, but I'd have it unlikely they earn a top 6 seed.

Some smartguy · Post #14 » by **Some smartguy** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:17 pm

BoardCrusher wrote:talk about over reacting, 18 games in the season and you talking about missing the playoffs, with the 2nd easiest schedule remaining.
We just got back 2 starters that missed the last 5 games, still missing 1 starter couse of covid...
talk about over reacting....

I said that I knew they were missing players in the OP... and were still garbage even when they were all there.

dirkforpres · Post #15 » by **dirkforpres** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:18 pm

I’m a broken record, but it’s BAD COACHING!

The supporting cast isn’t terrible, but the team is. Get rid of this overrated has been and see what the Mavs can do. I guarantee it’s better than this

Some smartguy · Post #16 » by **Some smartguy** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:20 pm

They just don't have enough talent alongside Luka. They have decent depth, but they don't really have a single near-all-star like most good teams have to complement a superstar.

yitur · Post #17 » by **yitur** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:23 pm

KqWIN wrote:Half their team isn't there, and 2/3 of their games have been on the road. They will be fine.

Shhh don't be reasonable and analytic. They have terrible coaching, terrible players and Luka sucks!

Lunartic · Post #18 » by **Lunartic** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:24 pm

dirkforpres wrote:I’m a broken record, but it’s BAD COACHING!

The supporting cast isn’t terrible, but the team is. Get rid of this overrated has been and see what the Mavs can do. I guarantee it’s better than this

Carlisle is a top-3 coach in the NBA.

The Mavs roster lacks a second real scorer. Luka needs a #2 guy that can score 30 on any given night and handle the ball when Luka is being denied. THJ will give you 20 one night and then go 3-12 and be useless. A trade for Cj McCollum would be smart.

Post #19 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:26 pm

Some smartguy wrote:They just don't have enough talent alongside Luka. They have decent depth, but they don't really have a single near-all-star like most good teams have to complement a superstar.

Yeah this is what gets lost, especially by the blame Rick Carlisle crowd. KP is maybe a top 50 player? Maybe not even that. Then who is the 3rd best player? Richardson, Hardaway, DFS, Maxi? I don't even know, but none of them are more than 5th starter types.

Dallas has a superstar, an inconsistent starter level guy in KP, and then a bunch of 5th-9th men. Hard to win like that. Can't be overrating these role players like so many do.

NY 567 · Post #20 » by **NY 567** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 4:28 pm

They probably make the playoffs, they're had a tough schedule, a lot of road games, and most of their team has been missing, but I'm not sure if the team as a whole is better than last years.