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asero wrote:48 games to qualify right? Lebron only has 41 so far.
NADALalot wrote:Doncic has no chance, because you have to be a winner to win the MVP, and Dallas are lost.
With the Clippers and Lakers falling, looks like Denver will get to 3rd place in the next couple of weeks.
But Denver can lose to anyone, so they won't get a stranglehold on 3rd place, just have a good chance.
And I doubt they'll reach the top 2, unless Utah continue to fall.
Chris Paul will make sure Phoenix finish #1, and he's the real most valuable player if we disregard stats.
If voter fatigue is not a problem, Giannis is the safest bet, because Milwaukee are very consistent and have a very good chance at finishing top 2.
But if voter fatigue is a problem then Jokic has the edge.
BoatsNZones wrote:CP3 is a cute off path name to say but no, the man is in his twilight seasons and while still highly effective/important, he is not close to MVP caliber. I could make a case that Mikal Bridges is nearly equal to their team success.
Again, the MVP is Jokic. Has been all season. I have no idea how or why this mans generational season is being so undervalued.
NADALalot wrote:Doncic has no chance, because you have to be a winner to win the MVP, and Dallas are lost.
With the Clippers and Lakers falling, looks like Denver will get to 3rd place in the next couple of weeks.
But Denver can lose to anyone, so they won't get a stranglehold on 3rd place, just have a good chance.
And I doubt they'll reach the top 2, unless Utah continue to fall.
Chris Paul will make sure Phoenix finish #1, and he's the real most valuable player if we disregard stats.
If voter fatigue is not a problem, Giannis is the safest bet, because Milwaukee are very consistent and have a very good chance at finishing top 2.
But if voter fatigue is a problem then Jokic has the edge.
And I don't know why somebody's team have to be the top seed in the Conference so the player on that team can be considered as the leading candidate for an award. Embiid is the great player but the Sixers are still winning the games with him being out, its not that they are complete trash , take Jokic and Doncic out from their teams for the extended period of time , I think both teams would have a hard time making the post season. Mickey8 wrote:Stop mention Jokic name in the MVP race, these are the "experts" who are voting for that award . The sad state of the sport broadcasting and journalism .
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Mickey8 wrote:Stop mention Jokic name in the MVP race, these are the "experts" who are voting for that award . The sad state of the sport broadcasting and journalism .
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Mickey8 wrote:Stop mention Jokic name in the MVP race, these are the "experts" who are voting for that award . The sad state of the sport broadcasting and journalism .
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TheFire wrote:Mickey8 wrote:Stop mention Jokic name in the MVP race, these are the "experts" who are voting for that award . The sad state of the sport broadcasting and journalism .
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Ridiculous. I made a thread about the American sports media disrespecting Jokic this season and this is further proof. Funny how that clown Marshall dismisses Jokic because nuggets lost to pelicans but had nothing to say about Harden’s awful performance vs Magic.
chaimer wrote:Guys tell me when dEnVerS EaSy sChedule kicks in, because they just lost again.
Everybody agrees that Westbrook winning in 2017 was a mistake. Jokic winning as a 5-6th seed would look the same..
Cavsfansince84 wrote:TheFire wrote:Mickey8 wrote:Stop mention Jokic name in the MVP race, these are the "experts" who are voting for that award . The sad state of the sport broadcasting and journalism .
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Ridiculous. I made a thread about the American sports media disrespecting Jokic this season and this is further proof. Funny how that clown Marshall dismisses Jokic because nuggets lost to pelicans but had nothing to say about Harden’s awful performance vs Magic.
The worst part is they are doing a disservice to the nba as a whole by playing down the international guys. These talking head idiots are such a disgrace.
LesGrossman wrote:They are not playing down the international guys, because Giannis is an international guy. They openly disrespect the white guy who looks slightly overweight and undefined because he does not fit their stereotype.
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote: I think that we will do worse than last season and that Giannis is now just a mere all star. All because we switched from Bud to Griffin.
greekbuck34 wrote:If you think Jokic is being disrespected wait for him to actually get his team to a top 2 spot. Last season Giannis had everything, the stats, the top spot, DPOY defense the best PER of all time and the media were trying till the end to swift this in favour of Lebron who also had a two way monster in AD.
Dupp wrote:Nuggets are trending in the right direction (8 of last 10).
Team record will factor though, as always. Voters may be more lenient though given the covid stuff. But Jokic not getting the right level of media respect is a legit concern. He wasnt talked about at all in regards to mvp last season and he should have been.
I think the playoff exposure would have done him good though.
SeniorWalker wrote:greekbuck34 wrote:If you think Jokic is being disrespected wait for him to actually get his team to a top 2 spot. Last season Giannis had everything, the stats, the top spot, DPOY defense the best PER of all time and the media were trying till the end to swift this in favour of Lebron who also had a two way monster in AD.
This. People talking about his whiteness are ridiculous. Winning records have always played a huge part in the award, only the rarest cases has it not. This is a close race because the Nuggets are a 5th seed, thats it. All the rest of it is really unnecessary.
I would bet anything that if Jokic had a top seed with his current stats, we'd be arguing about him winning unanimously or not.
Steve Nash won back to back and there were definitely players who had arguments over him and were clearly better individual players in those years.
The Nuggets are like three games below third seat in a very competitive West Conference and they are making out like Denver is out of the play off's and there are still plenty of games left to play . Just look at that bone head ex football player, he said , Jokic lost to Pelicans he's out of the race , I bet he can't name five players on Denver Nuggets without using search engine Yet they are hyping players who have formed the super team,SAS was promoting Irving as the MVP candidate, the player who has quit on his own team earlier and have missed chunk of the season already . Those talking heads, are not doing any analysis , about teams injuries , what teams have been through this season. They are just hyping specific players, whatever they are assigned from the top to talk about, whole media is like that weather is the sports or the politics, pure trash.
