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Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:37 pm
by shakes0
I'm not saying he should win it, but I'm not not saying that either. :D

At first glance his stats don't look like much on an improvement, but a deeper look shows that he's made a massive improvement to his game.

Hi minutes are down and he's attempting the least amount of shots in his career, but he's leading the entire league in 3 point shooting. He's hitting 57% of his 3s. Last season he hit 40%. He's NEVER been above 40%.

His efg% is a whopping .703%. His previous high was 59% in 2016-17.

His overall FG% is 51%. His previous high was 45% in 2016-17.


He's in his 8th year in the league and out of nowhere has had a noticeable massive improvement in his game. If that's not what MIP award was designed for I don't know what was.


Starting this thread because I think this long time end of the bench vet deserves a little recognition for his seemingly out of nowhere improvement to his game.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:43 pm
by hobbyist
I mean..he's Tony Snell.Anything could be an improvement for Tony Snell.Btw he was 2 times above 40% 3pt with nice volume in his two first Milwaukee seasons.

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Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:53 pm
by SUPERVILLAIN
You want someone whose mpg, ppg and apg declined from last year to be in the Most IMPROVED Player conversation?

Don't be silly.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:57 pm
by HotelVitale
Respectfully, there's no argument here for 'massive improvement' (a phrase you used multiple times in this thread). This just looks like a career shooting specialist having a good shooting spell in a small sample. Snell scores 5 ppg and has made 46 3s this year; he could have literally one bad game and shoot like 1/10 from 3 and his shooting would slip down 10%. Another bad game or two and he's back below league average. In addition to the sample size issue, he's also scoring a ludicrously low 10pts per 36, which is below his career average and would put him in the bottom 10% or so of rotation players for volume. (He's also shot exactly 2 FTs this whole season). He's always been low volume but it's tough to make a case for 'improvement' when you're decreasing your volume from already bottom-shelf levels.

Not saying Snell hasn't improved, saying we really can't know if he has based on only 46 shots and 5 ppg. And I don't think anyone thinks the MIP award was designed for deep back-ups who have made no noticeable change to their game but are hitting 1 more shot per week than they did in previous seasons.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:03 pm
by cupcakesnake
I think it's nice to point out Snell's improvement. But your tactic of using the MIP award to discuss it is just going to produce negative reactions. If you want him to get some positive attention for his shooting improvements, don't make a hyperbolic suggestion like this. People will show up on this thread just to hate on Snell now.

On a related note. I think the lack of crowds are and obvious factor on a lot of players shooting performances this year. Having never attempted an open 3 or free-throw while 20,000 people boo me, I can't say how hard it is. I think it's something mostly taken for granted.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:21 pm
by shakes0
jamaalstar21 wrote:I think it's nice to point out Snell's improvement. But your tactic of using the MIP award to discuss it is just going to produce negative reactions. If you want him to get some positive attention for his shooting improvements, don't make a hyperbolic suggestion like this. People will show up on this thread just to hate on Snell now.

On a related note. I think the lack of crowds are and obvious factor on a lot of players shooting performances this year. Having never attempted an open 3 or free-throw while 20,000 people boo me, I can't say how hard it is. I think it's something mostly taken for granted.


true, but this is 2021. If you don't have a hyperbolic ridiculous headline no one is going to click on your article.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:25 pm
by Duffman100
I've oddly always believed in Snell. Lanky, good shooter...

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:26 pm
by Bruin
If he played against the Raptors every game he’d probably win it

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:27 pm
by Texas Chuck
Duffman100 wrote:I've oddly always believe in Snell. Lanky, good shooter...


Me too. I think if he's your 4th wing you feel pretty good about it. Especially since his next contract is going to be much smaller than his current one.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:35 pm
by cupcakesnake
shakes0 wrote:
jamaalstar21 wrote:I think it's nice to point out Snell's improvement. But your tactic of using the MIP award to discuss it is just going to produce negative reactions. If you want him to get some positive attention for his shooting improvements, don't make a hyperbolic suggestion like this. People will show up on this thread just to hate on Snell now.

On a related note. I think the lack of crowds are and obvious factor on a lot of players shooting performances this year. Having never attempted an open 3 or free-throw while 20,000 people boo me, I can't say how hard it is. I think it's something mostly taken for granted.


true, but this is 2021. If you don't have a hyperbolic ridiculous headline no one is going to click on your article.


If you're going for clickbait, I think you had us all at: Tony Snell.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:37 pm
by shakes0
Texas Chuck wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:I've oddly always believe in Snell. Lanky, good shooter...


Me too. I think if he's your 4th wing you feel pretty good about it. Especially since his next contract is going to be much smaller than his current one.



with all the injuries we've had he's gone from end of the bench DNP-CD to now starting. He's done a fantastic job playing well in whatever role he's been given night in night out. Snell knows his lane and how to stay in it. Great trait to have for a guy who has his role changing throughout the season.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:00 pm
by The_Hater
LoL

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:02 pm
by Lockdown504090
jesus, there are 29 other teams. there are 30 people at least ahead of him.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:09 pm
by MrBigShot
Cool and all but no chance a guy that went from 8 -> 5ppg is sniffing MIP.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:13 pm
by Hangtime84
Duffman100 wrote:I've oddly always believed in Snell. Lanky, good shooter...

He always worked hard just translation to the floor has taken a while to get there.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:36 pm
by shakes0
Lockdown504090 wrote:jesus, there are 29 other teams. there are 30 people at least ahead of him.



I doubt that quite a bit.

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:40 pm
by kg01
shakes0 wrote:
jamaalstar21 wrote:I think it's nice to point out Snell's improvement. But your tactic of using the MIP award to discuss it is just going to produce negative reactions. If you want him to get some positive attention for his shooting improvements, don't make a hyperbolic suggestion like this. People will show up on this thread just to hate on Snell now.

On a related note. I think the lack of crowds are and obvious factor on a lot of players shooting performances this year. Having never attempted an open 3 or free-throw while 20,000 people boo me, I can't say how hard it is. I think it's something mostly taken for granted.


true, but this is 2021. If you don't have a hyperbolic ridiculous headline no one is going to click on your article.


Your only issue is aiming too low, bro. I'd like to petition the mods to change the thread title to "MVP" instead of "MIP"?

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:59 pm
by letsgobulls23
The fact that it's not clear whether or not this thread is a joke is concerning to me.

There's no way the OP would legitimately make a case for Snell for MIP.... right?

Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:22 pm
by skones
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Re: Tony Snell deserves consideration for MIP

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 4:50 pm
by meekrab
All his per-minute stats are right around where they've always been except the guy is hitting 3s like he's in a practice gym. He hasn't actually improved at anything except being ignored by defenses.