Metallikid wrote:WarriorGM wrote:Metallikid wrote:That's literally the definition of special pleading. You've been doing it this whole time.
It's outcome based. It doesn't matter what excuse you want to drone on about. He didn't have good enough team success to win multiple playoff rounds and he didn't have good enough individual success to garner awards in those years.
I'm sorry, I don't think he's transcendent. The unanimous MVP is his signature achievement, I give him a lot of credit for that, but I think he is truly a product of his era and not the other way around.
What kind of drivel is this? One learns new sophistry everyday!
It's outcome based? Well what else should conclusions be based on if not outcomes? Usain Bolt sets the 100m dash world record time. Expert says he's not really the fastest man on earth [for reasons]. Is contesting the "expert" based on the world record time "special pleading"?
I have another fallacy for you to look up: appeal to authority.
You're not following my conversation. I said it's outcome based because the person I was talking to kept saying things like, "Curry deserved this award this year even though he didn't get it." Meaning when it comes to being a transcendent player, one of the 20 best of all time, it doesn't matter what the reason was you did get it, only the outcome matters. I know my fallacies very well. I don't know what authority you think I'm appealing to. All these Curry stans love using the appeal to popularity though.
My apologies if I didn't quite get the thread of your conversation. But I will say this: when you look at statistics and winning, Curry is an outlier and that is based on numbers taken from results on the court not opinion based awards. A sixth seed beating a third seed in the playoffs causing an upset is uncommon. A team winning 67 games in the regular season is a rarity. A team winning a championship in its first appearance in an NBA finals is exceptional. A team winning 73 games in the regular season is singular. A team having three consecutive 67-win seasons in a row is unprecedented. A team going 16-1 in the playoffs is nonpareil. These are numbers not compared just to one season but to all of NBA history. That is what Curry is associated with: achievements that are rarer than an NBA championship. In the realm of basketball achievements he has produced outlier after outlier after outlier. Don't bother arguing about Curry on the basis of All-Star games appearances, those are cheap Chinese knockoffs or candy that they hand out every year compared to what Curry has.