People on her don’t seriously believe the Lakers can beat the Nets do they ?

lamscott · Post #21 » by **lamscott** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:06 pm

All these people super biased.

I'm a Laker fan. I'm scared of the Nets.

First Step · Post #22 » by **First Step** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:15 pm

SnoopDub wrote:
First Step wrote:Nets ain’t getting through the Bucks.

Youre funny

How many games have Kyrie/KD/Harden played together? I want to remind folks that the Mavericks took out LBJ/Wade/Bosh, and they had actually played a full season together. If you think you can just throw out talent and win the chip, all you have to do is look at history to prove that this isn't always the case. Nash is a rookie coach, who wasn't even an assistant or a G League coach in the past. Kyrie has been in the 5th dimension and spent half the season smoking peyote in Peru.

The Bucks have been flying under the radar because they don't care about the regular season anymore.

Liam_Gallagher · Post #23 » by **Liam_Gallagher** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:25 pm

We'll have to wait to see if the teams can be healthy if they play in the Finals. Durant and Kyrie aren't exactly iron men.

When both teams are healthy, it's close. The OP mentions that the Lakers beat Miami in 6, but fails to discuss how the Lakers essentially added last years two finalists for 6MOY. They replaced Howard, McGee, Rondo and Green with Drummond, Gasol, Shroder and Harrell.

Optms · Post #24 » by **Optms** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:25 pm

First Step wrote:
SnoopDub wrote:
First Step wrote:Nets ain’t getting through the Bucks.

Youre funny

How many games have Kyrie/KD/Harden played together? I want to remind folks that the Mavericks took out LBJ/Wade/Bosh, and they had actually played a full season together. If you think you can just throw out talent and win the chip, all you have to do is look at history to prove that this isn't always the case. Nash is a rookie coach, who wasn't even an assistant or a G League coach in the past. Kyrie has been in the 5th dimension and spent half the season smoking peyote in Peru.

The Bucks have been flying under the radar because they don't care about the regular season anymore.

You're highlighting a very good point (The Nets trio has almost no time together) but you're also underscoring how incompetent the Bucks become within a playoff format when Giannis cannot consistently hit a jump shot. If any of the games are close, the Nets put them away. The only chance the Bucks have is blowing them out or carrying significant leads down the stretch. Not happening.

First Step · Post #25 » by **First Step** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:27 pm

Optms wrote:
First Step wrote:
SnoopDub wrote:
Youre funny

How many games have Kyrie/KD/Harden played together? I want to remind folks that the Mavericks took out LBJ/Wade/Bosh, and they had actually played a full season together. If you think you can just throw out talent and win the chip, all you have to do is look at history to prove that this isn't always the case. Nash is a rookie coach, who wasn't even an assistant or a G League coach in the past. Kyrie has been in the 5th dimension and spent half the season smoking peyote in Peru.

The Bucks have been flying under the radar because they don't care about the regular season anymore.

You're highlighting a very good point (The Nets trio has almost no time together) but you're also underscoring how incompetent the Bucks become within a playoff format when Giannis cannot consistently hit a jump shot. If any of the games are close, the Nets put them away. The only chance the Bucks have is blowing them out or carrying significant leads down the stretch. Not happening.

Have you seen how dominant Jrue Holiday has been in the playoffs? He destroyed Lillard. They have gone to the conference finals before, and last season they got derailed by the bubble.

MagicBagley18 · Post #26 » by **MagicBagley18** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:28 pm

If lebron is healthy and AD? Yes I do. Won’t be easy and right now the nets are favorites and imo will skate through the east but yea I’m giving lebron James a chance.....silly me I guess?

Que Rico · Post #27 » by **Que Rico** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:31 pm

AD is glass. I can’t wait for Lebron to be gone so we can watch an AD “led” Lakers plummet :lol:

yesh · Post #28 » by **yesh** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:32 pm

I look forward to seeing which part of his body LBJ has a fake cast on, after this years playoffs.

Post #29 » by **oldncreaky** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:40 pm

Yes, of course the Lakers CAN beat the Nets. If healthy, the Nets should be favored, but better-than-a-coin-flip is not a sure thing, and there are many possible stumbling blocks.

Health is a thing that affects the playoffs every single year, and we don't know who'll be on the court. We don't know what lineup the Nets will use when they need multiple stops in a tight game, and how well that will work. Most star-studded teams don't win until their second or third playoff run. Older 3-star combo's sometimes are caught by time or injuries before they can win (examples: late-90's Rockets, LAL with Kobe/Nash/Howard, BKN Celtics). And last but not least, how will the Nets react to playoff adversity?

Pistons & Raptors fan, so my teams are out of it. I think it is as wide open as it was last year, and every team has significant flaws or question marks. Should be fun!

GYK · Post #30 » by **GYK** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:41 pm

First Step wrote:
SnoopDub wrote:
First Step wrote:Nets ain’t getting through the Bucks.

Youre funny

How many games have Kyrie/KD/Harden played together? I want to remind folks that the Mavericks took out LBJ/Wade/Bosh, and they had actually played a full season together. If you think you can just throw out talent and win the chip, all you have to do is look at history to prove that this isn't always the case. Nash is a rookie coach, who wasn't even an assistant or a G League coach in the past. Kyrie has been in the 5th dimension and spent half the season smoking peyote in Peru.

The Bucks have been flying under the radar because they don't care about the regular season anymore.

I think the major difference between the Heatles and NWO is that, besides Harden being better than Wade, is that they all shoot excellent. Their fit is significantly better while being excellent creators(their value is nearly exclusively offensive and elite in all offensive aspects instead of the Heatles two way ability). The Nets are just better equipped to play together than the Heat was.
Bucks absolutely can beat them. I don’t understand how people see building a wall of human bodies isn’t signifying the lengths teams go to for Giannis. Or that their 3&D ability is team wide. By no means are they an easy out. We act as if Giannis elite status hasn’t made the ECF and wasn’t injured in the Heat series, a Heat team that went to the Finals and committed to a zone to the point you would think they were a Rick team.

mpoo_sin · Post #31 » by **mpoo_sin** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:43 pm

Again a thread where a lot of guys flat out deny that more than 2 teams have the chance to win the championship . Just ignorant.

How many times has a team actually won the championship without having a top10 defense and a top10 offense?

It is one thing to say that some team is a favourite to win. It is another thing to just state that this team 100% wins it.

First Step · Post #32 » by **First Step** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:55 pm

GYK wrote:
First Step wrote:
SnoopDub wrote:
Youre funny

How many games have Kyrie/KD/Harden played together? I want to remind folks that the Mavericks took out LBJ/Wade/Bosh, and they had actually played a full season together. If you think you can just throw out talent and win the chip, all you have to do is look at history to prove that this isn't always the case. Nash is a rookie coach, who wasn't even an assistant or a G League coach in the past. Kyrie has been in the 5th dimension and spent half the season smoking peyote in Peru.

The Bucks have been flying under the radar because they don't care about the regular season anymore.

I think the major difference between the Heatles and NWO is that, besides Harden being better than Wade, is that they all shoot excellent. Their fit is significantly better while being excellent creators(their value is nearly exclusively offensive and elite in all offensive aspects instead of the Heatles two way ability). The Nets are just better equipped to play together than the Heat was.
Bucks absolutely can beat them. I don’t understand how people see building a wall of human bodies isn’t signifying the lengths teams go to for Giannis. Or that their 3&D ability is team wide. By no means are they an easy out. We act as if Giannis elite status hasn’t made the ECF and wasn’t injured in the Heat series, a Heat team that went to the Finals and committed to a zone to the point you would think they were a Rick team.

Wade was a Finals MVP already at that stage in his career. Harden has been underwhelming in the postseason compared to his regular-season play. That Heatles team had LBJ at peak athleticism. Spoelstra is a better coach than Nash, and they had to get through that Celtics team, and still lost in the finals.

Holiday is such a massive upgrade over Bledsoe. PJ Tucker is a solid defender who is a corner three specialist. With Giannis that is exactly the right type of complementary player. The Bucks are going to take the East this year, as I don't think Philly is that great, and the Nets haven't developed the team chemistry needed to beat an elite team 4 times.

iamworthy · Post #33 » by **iamworthy** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:56 pm

Same thread, different wording. Enough with the Lakers vs Nets stuff. Both teams have to get through their conference first.

Johnny Fontane · Post #34 » by **Johnny Fontane** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:06 pm

Premature threads like this suck. Stop being a prisoner of the moment and let the playoffs happen first

levon · Post #35 » by **levon** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:10 pm

Top offenses of the league have failed to win titles plenty of times before. Also, it's still a giant question mark whether all 3 of the Nets guys are going to be healthy at once. Durant and Harden have hammy issues, which are notoriously nagging. And Kyrie always finds creative ways to get injured.

That said, the Lakers are going to limp into the playoffs. Suns and Utah have more consistency, Denver has more stride right now and has gotten more physical, and the Clippers have the talent.

Cavsfansince84 · Post #36 » by **Cavsfansince84** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:20 pm

Lakers have a lot of work ahead just to get to the finals. Them making the finals isn't some kind of certainty even if healthy. The Nets seem like they will be almost unstoppable so long as their guys can play in the ecf/finals. I don't even think they'd need all 3 until then so long as they have Harden to run the offense.

Marrrcuss · Post #37 » by **Marrrcuss** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:26 pm

If healthy, id take all bets.

I dont know who the nets would put on a healthy AD. I dont think KD would have his legs if he had to guard LeBron for 30 minutes. Im good with our defensive guard rotation harassing the nets guards. I have no idea who they will use to keep Drummond of the boards.

But again, if they arent healthy, none of this matters.

GYK · Post #38 » by **GYK** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:29 pm

First Step wrote:
GYK wrote:
First Step wrote:How many games have Kyrie/KD/Harden played together? I want to remind folks that the Mavericks took out LBJ/Wade/Bosh, and they had actually played a full season together. If you think you can just throw out talent and win the chip, all you have to do is look at history to prove that this isn't always the case. Nash is a rookie coach, who wasn't even an assistant or a G League coach in the past. Kyrie has been in the 5th dimension and spent half the season smoking peyote in Peru.

The Bucks have been flying under the radar because they don't care about the regular season anymore.

I think the major difference between the Heatles and NWO is that, besides Harden being better than Wade, is that they all shoot excellent. Their fit is significantly better while being excellent creators(their value is nearly exclusively offensive and elite in all offensive aspects instead of the Heatles two way ability). The Nets are just better equipped to play together than the Heat was.
Bucks absolutely can beat them. I don’t understand how people see building a wall of human bodies isn’t signifying the lengths teams go to for Giannis. Or that their 3&D ability is team wide. By no means are they an easy out. We act as if Giannis elite status hasn’t made the ECF and wasn’t injured in the Heat series, a Heat team that went to the Finals and committed to a zone to the point you would think they were a Rick team.

Wade was a Finals MVP already at that stage in his career. Harden has been underwhelming in the postseason compared to his regular-season play. That Heatles team had LBJ at peak athleticism. Spoelstra is a better coach than Nash, and they had to get through that Celtics team, and still lost in the finals.

Holiday is such a massive upgrade over Bledsoe. PJ Tucker is a solid defender who is a corner three specialist. With Giannis that is exactly the right type of complementary player. The Bucks are going to take the East this year, as I don't think Philly is that great, and the Nets haven't developed the team chemistry needed to beat an elite team 4 times.

Harden has been pretty great in the PS. Multiple WCF. Wade does have a Finals MVP but also multiple 1st round exits. So if we were to go performance for performance I think Harden would come out better.
The Eric and Celtics points are subjective. Who knows and any team can prove to be as good as the 2011+ C’s. Point being the Nets not winning because the Heat didn’t isn’t a solid theory as their makeup’s are so drastically different.
As for you Bucks points. Completely agree. I think I’ve been saying that. No one should take the Bucks lightly.

LOUiS-D · Post #39 » by **LOUiS-D** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:38 pm

I don't have the Nets making the play in tournament, let alone making the playoffs, let alone beating the Bucks, let alone getting out of the east, let alone winning the championship.

The only thing the Nets are close to winning is the lottery... for Houston

BrooklynDynasty · Post #40 » by **BrooklynDynasty** » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:39 pm

Nick Wrong and the Lebrand media army will boast about Lakers being better than the Nets until the sweep happens, at which point they will claim KD needed a super team to beat him :lol: