As a Scoring Point Guard, Steph Has No Serious Rival

[Pelly24]

Even I didn't think he could reach heights like this. He's averaging 31/6/6 on 66 TS% even though he's got the worst spacing in the league and a very mediocre/terrible offense without him. That efficiency is ridiculous no matter what team you're on. But him putting up those numbers on this team destroys any narratives about him being a system player. Sometimes I feel like he isn't dynamic enough and he relies on his three-point shooting too much. That might even be true. But when you're that impossibly good at shooting and your release is that quick it doesn't matter.

Anyways, that's my TED Talk.

[Marrrcuss]

Can we just call him the shooting guard he is, even if it means he isnt top 3 all time at his position?

And i still have him leading Dame and Kyrie who, just like him, are more shooting guard than point. Id still rather have those two in the final 2 mins of a playoff game thought.

[Frank Dux]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

[IgorK]

Can we just call him the shooting guard he is, even if it means he isnt top 3 all time at his position?

And i still have him leading Dame and Kyrie who, just like him, are more shooting guard than point. Id still rather have those two in the final 2 mins of a playoff game thought.

Just because they are excellent scorers doesn't make the 3 shooting guards. They're all point guards as they are the primary ball handlers and they facilitate the offense.

Back to the original topic - I don't think there's any doubt that Steph is the best scoring PG ever.

If Kyrie ever got serious about basketball he might have an argument.

Dame is more clutch than either of the two.

[Buzzard]

Even I didn't think he could reach heights like this. He's averaging 31/6/6 on 66 TS% even though he's got the worst spacing in the league and a very mediocre/terrible offense without him. That efficiency is ridiculous no matter what team you're on. But him putting up those numbers on this team destroys any narratives about him being a system player. Sometimes I feel like he isn't dynamic enough and he relies on his three-point shooting too much. That might even be true. But when you're that impossibly good at shooting and your release is that quick it doesn't matter.

Anyways, that's my TED Talk.

From a scoring standpoint he is and has for the most part bettered Harden most of his career. No one compares to pure scoring from the guard spot. Not a hot take; just a fact backed up with counting stats and a career TS% of .626.

[Danny1616]

I do agree that Steph is arguably the most dominant offensive player in NBA history.

Pure shooter - best ever
Off-ball shooter - best over
Moving without the ball - best ever
Shooting off screens - best ever
Release - arguably quickest ever
Making difficult shots - one of the best ever
Handles - one of the best ever
Floater - one of the best ever
IQ/Vision - one of the best ever

The only category he's not elite is as a post-up player, but he's so dominant as a shooter it doesn't matter.

Curry has an insane motor, he's incredible with and without the ball, he puts an enormous pressure on an opposing defense at all times.

Facts are facts. In 2015 and 2016 Curry was a cheat code that almost single handedly reduced the impact of the traditional slow big man. If you were a team that tried to guard him with a slow big he would torch your team and the game was over by the 3rd quarter.

[Pelly24]

Even I didn't think he could reach heights like this. He's averaging 31/6/6 on 66 TS% even though he's got the worst spacing in the league and a very mediocre/terrible offense without him. That efficiency is ridiculous no matter what team you're on. But him putting up those numbers on this team destroys any narratives about him being a system player. Sometimes I feel like he isn't dynamic enough and he relies on his three-point shooting too much. That might even be true. But when you're that impossibly good at shooting and your release is that quick it doesn't matter.

Anyways, that's my TED Talk.

From a scoring standpoint he is and has for the most part bettered Harden most of his career. No one compares to pure scoring from the guard spot. Not a hot take; just a fact backed up with counting stats and a career TS% of .626.

To me Harden is a Shooting Guard. Also, I think Harden's edge in the ability to reliably generate great offense for himself no matter what makes him a slightly better scorer.

[Shock Defeat]

If you consider Harden a PG then he is right there.

[Optms]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Curry is 10x the player Lillard is off the ball. And in terms of shooting, Dame is just an imitator.

[Rodwilliams]

I do agree that Steph is arguably the most dominant offensive player in NBA history.

Pure shooter - best ever
Off-ball shooter - best over
Moving without the ball - best ever
Shooting off screens - best ever
Release - arguably quickest ever
Making difficult shots - one of the best ever
Handles - one of the best ever
Floater - one of the best ever
IQ/Vision - one of the best ever

The only category he's not elite is as a post-up player, but he's so dominant as a shooter it doesn't matter.

Curry has an insane motor, he's incredible with and without the ball, he puts an enormous pressure on an opposing defense at all times.

Facts are facts. In 2015 and 2016 Curry was a cheat code that almost single handedly reduced the impact of the traditional slow big man. If you were a team that tried to guard him with a slow big he would torch your team and the game was over by the 3rd quarter.

Not saying I disagree with any of this but the thread is about the best scoring point guard. James Harden has him beat in that category, when it comes to pure scoring.

[Buzzard]

Even I didn't think he could reach heights like this. He's averaging 31/6/6 on 66 TS% even though he's got the worst spacing in the league and a very mediocre/terrible offense without him. That efficiency is ridiculous no matter what team you're on. But him putting up those numbers on this team destroys any narratives about him being a system player. Sometimes I feel like he isn't dynamic enough and he relies on his three-point shooting too much. That might even be true. But when you're that impossibly good at shooting and your release is that quick it doesn't matter.

Anyways, that's my TED Talk.

From a scoring standpoint he is and has for the most part bettered Harden most of his career. No one compares to pure scoring from the guard spot. Not a hot take; just a fact backed up with counting stats and a career TS% of .626.

To me Harden is a Shooting Guard. Also, I think Harden's edge in the ability to reliably generate great offense for himself no matter what makes him a slightly better scorer.

I like comparing Steph to all guards. I think it levels the playing field. At the same time, Steph still has no equal when it comes to a guard generating efficient points. Like has already been said, its more unreal this season when you look at his supporting cast.

The hot takes of Trae comparing to Steph two seasons ago was just that. Media hype because Trae also likes to shoot bombs. I don't think we will ever see another guard shoot over a .650 TS for the season while also scoring 30 points a game.

[Rodwilliams]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Curry is 10x the player Lillard is off the ball. And in terms of shooting, Dame is just an imitator.

Dame has half court buzzer beaters in the PLAYOFFS. I wouldn’t call that imitating.

[Danny1616]

I do agree that Steph is arguably the most dominant offensive player in NBA history.

Pure shooter - best ever
Off-ball shooter - best over
Moving without the ball - best ever
Shooting off screens - best ever
Release - arguably quickest ever
Making difficult shots - one of the best ever
Handles - one of the best ever
Floater - one of the best ever
IQ/Vision - one of the best ever

The only category he's not elite is as a post-up player, but he's so dominant as a shooter it doesn't matter.

Curry has an insane motor, he's incredible with and without the ball, he puts an enormous pressure on an opposing defense at all times.

Facts are facts. In 2015 and 2016 Curry was a cheat code that almost single handedly reduced the impact of the traditional slow big man. If you were a team that tried to guard him with a slow big he would torch your team and the game was over by the 3rd quarter.

Not saying I disagree with any of this but the thread is about the best scoring point guard. James Harden has him beat in that category, when it comes to pure scoring.

Harden is in the conversation for sure. I give Steph a slight nod because he's more efficient and much better moving without the ball.

[Rodwilliams]

From a scoring standpoint he is and has for the most part bettered Harden most of his career. No one compares to pure scoring from the guard spot. Not a hot take; just a fact backed up with counting stats and a career TS% of .626.

To me Harden is a Shooting Guard. Also, I think Harden's edge in the ability to reliably generate great offense for himself no matter what makes him a slightly better scorer.

I like comparing Steph to all guards. I think it levels the playing field. At the same time, Steph still has no equal when it comes to a guard generating efficient points. Like has already been said, its more unreal this season when you look at his supporting cast.

The hot takes of Trae comparing to Steph two seasons ago was just that. Media hype because Trae also likes to shoot bombs. I don't think we will ever see another guard shoot over a .650 TS for the season while also scoring 30 points a game.

Curry is a better shooter but Harden is a better scorer.

[Peregrine01]

He's manufacturing the most efficient volume scoring season ever - again. I didn't think he could rival what he did in 2016, but he's getting damn near close to that while playing with the worst supporting cast on offense probably ever.

It shouldn't be real what he's doing.

[Optms]

I don't think there's a big drop off between Steph and Dame at this point.

Curry is 10x the player Lillard is off the ball. And in terms of shooting, Dame is just an imitator.

Dame has half court buzzer beaters in the PLAYOFFS. I wouldn’t call that imitating.

Not saying Dame isn't great, he is. But there are levels to this. Curry is in the realm of the GOATs.

[GYK]

Yea he’s the greatest scoring point ever. Dame, Kyrie and Oscar would by others but as a scorer/shooter no one really comes close. Post 16 Steph is a damn monster.

[dygaction]

As a point guard, Steph has no serious rivals. He is almost in any invincible starting 5 as the PG due to unprecedented shooting, off ball, and gravity.

[clyde21]

Can we just call him the shooting guard he is, even if it means he isnt top 3 all time at his position?

And i still have him leading Dame and Kyrie who, just like him, are more shooting guard than point. Id still rather have those two in the final 2 mins of a playoff game thought.

why would we call him something he's not? he's not a shooting guard. he's a PG that plays off ball half the time because he's also happens to be an elite off-ball player...if anything he's a combo guard, but he's not a SG

and he would actually be ranked as just as high on the SG list as he would on the PG list...so, yea.

[I beg to differ]

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