Should the bulls tank or compete?
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Should the bulls tank or compete?
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Should the bulls tank or compete?
So with AK's dumb boneheaded move, the Bulls will 100% give up their top 4 protected pick to Magic who will get a prospect better than Vuc from top 5~10 pick and are in danger of giving up a top 5 2023 pick who can be generational type. Magic in that day went from the worst treadmill team to becoming next OKC with unlimited picks incoming with high end talent.
Should the Bulls hard core tank 20 straight loss for a semi guaranteed top 4 pick and risk giving up top 5 pick to Magic or compete for a playin and give up a guaranteed top 10 pick? Its a very unique situation where you have 2 all stars and yet it became a bottom 5 team.
Should the Bulls hard core tank 20 straight loss for a semi guaranteed top 4 pick and risk giving up top 5 pick to Magic or compete for a playin and give up a guaranteed top 10 pick? Its a very unique situation where you have 2 all stars and yet it became a bottom 5 team.
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As a Magic fan I'd like to see them tank, because I don't think they'll get more than a 30% chance of a top 4. Last year they jumped from 7 into the top 4, but unlikely 2 years in a row.
I think they end up between 7-10, even if they don't tank.
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I think they end up between 7-10, even if they don't tank.
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So many teams are tanking. With this pace, some of the tanking teams will make the playoffs via play-in tournament. Lol.
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I don't see any evidence that the Bulls are capable of competing.
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Tanking comes from the front office, not the team on the court. Players and coaches do not intentionally lose games. The Bulls FO has created the current roster, the trade deadline is over, and wherever the Bulls land in the standings will be a function of how good they are relative to their opponents each night. You never want your team on the court to not compete to the best of their abilities.
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Let’s put it this way. They can’t be bad enough fast enough to finish between 27-30 because those teams want to be worse and have a head start. They don’t have their pick. So there is no real good reason not to try to compete.
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It doesn't matter what they should do, they're taking whether they like it or not.
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As a Raps fan hoping to see them compete, I was pretty disappointed when the Vuc trade was made, because that's not the kind of all-in move you make that actually improves your team. Now, I don't see how they CAN compete.
That aside, nobody wants that 10th seed for the play-in, so they've got as good a chance as anybody to at least make the playoffs (still hoping they do).
That aside, nobody wants that 10th seed for the play-in, so they've got as good a chance as anybody to at least make the playoffs (still hoping they do).
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The Bulls and Raptors goal should be to pass the Hornets in the standings
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baldur wrote:So many teams are tanking. With this pace, some of the tanking teams will make the playoffs via play-in tournament. Lol.
Other than the Raps, who else is tanking in the East that is in the playoff race?
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Cleveland and Washington. Washington could tie Chicago with a win, and a Bulls loss.Trey24 wrote:baldur wrote:So many teams are tanking. With this pace, some of the tanking teams will make the playoffs via play-in tournament. Lol.
Other than the Raps, who else is tanking in the East that is in the playoff race?
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DroseReturnChi wrote:So with AK's dumb boneheaded move, the Bulls will 100% give up their top 4 protected pick to Magic who will get a prospect better than Vuc from top 5~10 pick and are in danger of giving up a top 5 2023 pick who can be generational type. Magic in that day went from the worst treadmill team to becoming next OKC with unlimited picks incoming with high end talent.
Should the Bulls hard core tank 20 straight loss for a semi guaranteed top 4 pick and risk giving up top 5 pick to Magic or compete for a playin and give up a guaranteed top 10 pick? Its a very unique situation where you have 2 all stars and yet it became a bottom 5 team.
Compete!!
Why trade for Vuc and then tank? They ranked long enough. They can still get a play-in game and taste the playoff appetizer.
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They have to compete esp after making that trade. Donovan is not going to allow them to tank on purpose. They should go all out when Lavine gets back. Who knows maybe they will make a good showing and sign a FA this offseason.
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Johnny Bball wrote:Let’s put it this way. They can’t be bad enough fast enough to finish between 27-30 because those teams want to be worse and have a head start. They don’t have their pick. So there is no real good reason not to try to compete.
why tho? why not get 20 loss and get 10% chance for Cade and 40% for top 4? Your losing a top 10 pick anyway.
If they lost every single game except bottom 5, they can beat okc, clevland for top 5 record realistically.
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TheEndIsNigh wrote:It doesn't matter what they should do, they're taking whether they like it or not.
lavine is out for long time.
even as a pro tanker, i liked them to compete post vuc trade but this covid quarantine changes 100%.
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DroseReturnChi wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:Let’s put it this way. They can’t be bad enough fast enough to finish between 27-30 because those teams want to be worse and have a head start. They don’t have their pick. So there is no real good reason not to try to compete.
why tho? why not get 20 loss and get 10% chance for Cade and 40% for top 4? Your losing a top 10 pick anyway.
If they lost every single game except bottom 5, they can beat okc, clevland for top 5 record realistically.
They're a little bit in no man's land but they have a much better chance to land a FA such as Lonzo than to tank for a top 4 pick at this point. Lavine and Vuc really need to start winning now.
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I understand the question...but I hate that the league has turned into this. Championship or bust has really turned the season into a bunch of mush. The best part of the season should be the season.
If you’re a good team, the season doesn’t matter because it’s the playoffs that matter. If you’re a bad team, the season doesn’t matter because it’s about the future. If you’re mediocre, the season doesn’t matter and the fans wish you were a bad team.
If you’re a good team, the season doesn’t matter because it’s the playoffs that matter. If you’re a bad team, the season doesn’t matter because it’s about the future. If you’re mediocre, the season doesn’t matter and the fans wish you were a bad team.
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mg wrote:DroseReturnChi wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:Let’s put it this way. They can’t be bad enough fast enough to finish between 27-30 because those teams want to be worse and have a head start. They don’t have their pick. So there is no real good reason not to try to compete.
why tho? why not get 20 loss and get 10% chance for Cade and 40% for top 4? Your losing a top 10 pick anyway.
If they lost every single game except bottom 5, they can beat okc, clevland for top 5 record realistically.
They're a little bit in no man's land but they have a much better chance to land a FA such as Lonzo than to tank for a top 4 pick at this point. Lavine and Vuc really need to start winning now.
they can go warriors route tank and get Suggs then sign and trade for lonzo dealing Lauri. no good fas anyways in 21/22.
The more i think abt it, they should soft reset and maybe Suggs save the Bulls collapse and lavine from leaving.
Bulls had playmaking issue close to a decade post Rose. As much as I hate lavine/vuc, lineup of suggs/lavine/ball/pat/vuc is scary it can give lakers/nets a run.
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DroseReturnChi wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:Let’s put it this way. They can’t be bad enough fast enough to finish between 27-30 because those teams want to be worse and have a head start. They don’t have their pick. So there is no real good reason not to try to compete.
why tho? why not get 20 loss and get 10% chance for Cade and 40% for top 4? Your losing a top 10 pick anyway.
If they lost every single game except bottom 5, they can beat okc, clevland for top 5 record realistically.
Because they will never get to bottom 5. As it stands they are going to have a 13% chance of keeping their pick. You don't tank for that. You most likely just end up improving Orlando.