Which Players from 1980's-~2000's Would Benefit Most From "The 3 Point Game" (~2010-2021)?

ty 4191 · Post #1 » by **ty 4191** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:17 am

Which players would excel the most in the offensive environment & with the rules and practices of the past 10 years or so?

1980-1989: 3.4 three pointers attempted per game.

1990-1999: 11.4 attempted per game

2000-2009: 15.6 attempted per game

2010-2021: 25 attempted per game. 35 (!) attempted per game this year!!

Discuss!!

ty 4191 · Post #2 » by **ty 4191** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:27 am

RE: Which Players from 1980's-~2000's Would Benefit Most From "The 3 Point Game" (~2010-2021)?

I'll take Larry Legend, for starters, because one he started actually trying 3's more than once in a blue moon, and was still healthy, look at the results...

1985-1988 3PA 3P%
1. Hodges 700 .416
2. Bird 787 .414
3. Ainge 678 .404
4. Ellis 781 .382
5. Cooper 695 .351

1985-1988 True Shooting %
1. Bird .588
2. Ainge .570
3. Ellis .556
4. Hodges .552
5. Cooper .545

Ainge is right up there, too!!! One of the best pure shooters in NBA History.

RyderMike · Post #3 » by **RyderMike** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:29 am

Honestly Bargnani probably would've been a star in this era of 3s and limited D, instead of being labelled a bust for it

Archx · Post #4 » by **Archx** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:41 am

RyderMike wrote:Honestly Bargnani probably would've been a star in this era of 3s and limited D, instead of being labelled a bust for it

That guy had a lot more other issues than just wrong "era". Plus he did play until 2015. That's not so far away.

Smirkin Dirk · Post #5 » by **Smirkin Dirk** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:55 am

Throughout most of Dirk's prime he averaged less than 3 attempts per game. Imagine if he got that up to 8-10.

ty 4191 · Post #6 » by **ty 4191** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:13 pm

Career League Adjusted Shooting:

Bird:
3 Pointers: 127
Free Throws: 117

Curry:
3s: 121
FT: 119

Craig Hodges:
3s: 131
FT: 109

Reggie Miller:
3s: 115
FT: 118

Dana Barros:
3s: 119
FT: 115

Dale Ellis:
3s: 121
FT: 104

Mark Price:
3s: 120
FT: 120

RyderMike · Post #7 » by **RyderMike** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:55 pm

Archx wrote:
RyderMike wrote:Honestly Bargnani probably would've been a star in this era of 3s and limited D, instead of being labelled a bust for it

That guy had a lot more other issues than just wrong "era". Plus he did play until 2015. That's not so far away.

He did have other issues (ie rebounding) , but 2015 bargs wasn't same player as young bargs. Raptors made him bulk up and put on weight so he could play centre, which really made him really slow. Even if he wasn't a star, I think his career would've much better appreciated if he was drafted 10 years later.

OdomFan · Post #8 » by **OdomFan** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:31 pm

Some roleplayers/borderline allstars would be utilized better too imo. Guys like

Tim Legler
Tracy Murray
Allen Houston
Sam Perkins
Eddie House
Judd Buchler
Detlef Schrempf
Charlie Ward
Damon Jones
Dale Ellis
Dennis Scott
Mookie Baylock
Dell Curry
Hersey Hawkins
Rashard Lewis
Dan Majerle
Mike Bibby
John Starks
Mark Price
Byron Scott
Michael Redd
Antonie Walker
Morris Petterson
Tim Thomas
Mike Miller
Michael Finley
Cutino Mobley

Ritzo · Post #9 » by **Ritzo** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:26 pm

Wally Szczerbiak

draftnightsuit · Post #10 » by **draftnightsuit** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:41 pm

RyderMike wrote:Honestly Bargnani probably would've been a star in this era of 3s and limited D, instead of being labelled a bust for it

Bargnani is lucky he doesn’t play in this era. He would be a walking Twitter meme.

Watch on YouTube

Post #11 » by **oldncreaky** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:24 pm

Mark Price

In the 80's and 90's, hand checking was a huge thing. Put Mark in an era where he can get where he wants without being mugged and that sweet shot of his would shine

UcanUwill · Post #12 » by **UcanUwill** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:28 pm

RyderMike wrote:Honestly Bargnani probably would've been a star in this era of 3s and limited D, instead of being labelled a bust for it

He wasnt even great shooter and in todays league where most bigmen can shoot 3s, what specialty would he bring? He was terrible in Europe as not so long as 2017, and people still say that scrub would have been magically good ''now''. Guy was negative player all his career, at best a poor mans Markanen and even thats a stretch, Bargs is one of the most damaging busts of all time.

UcanUwill · Post #13 » by **UcanUwill** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:37 pm

draftnightsuit wrote:
RyderMike wrote:Honestly Bargnani probably would've been a star in this era of 3s and limited D, instead of being labelled a bust for it

Bargnani is lucky he doesn’t play in this era. He would be a walking Twitter meme.

Watch on YouTube

Hopefully, he would have been out of the league by year 3, instead of sticking around and fooling everyone that he had something to bring. Analytics would eat Bargs apart. He fooled all of us, got to admit, all of us believed he is not terrible in a while, while in reality teams with him on the court were always worse than with him off the court, Knicks, Italy, Raptors. And thats why hes bigger bust that Araujo, Aroujo was trash but he was off the team in 2 years, Bargnani tanked teamsfor YEARS, fooling everyone that he will figure it out because he moved fluidly, man is one of the worst 7 foot defenders and rebounders of all times, and I swear I am so sick of ignorant fools who keep bumping this man in these threads like he was ever somewhat good and just bad because of the circumstances. BArgnani was and would be one of the worst players in the league.

draftnightsuit · Post #14 » by **draftnightsuit** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:29 pm

oldncreaky wrote:Mark Price

In the 80's and 90's, hand checking was a huge thing. Put Mark in an era where he can get where he wants without being mugged and that sweet shot of his would shine

Mark Price would not be an NBA player in today’s league.

draftnightsuit · Post #15 » by **draftnightsuit** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:41 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
draftnightsuit wrote:
RyderMike wrote:Honestly Bargnani probably would've been a star in this era of 3s and limited D, instead of being labelled a bust for it

Bargnani is lucky he doesn’t play in this era. He would be a walking Twitter meme.

Watch on YouTube

Hopefully, he would have been out of the league by year 3, instead of sticking around and fooling everyone that he had something to bring. Analytics would eat Bargs apart. He fooled all of us, got to admit, all of us believed he is not terrible in a while, while in reality teams with him on the court were always worse than with him off the court, Knicks, Italy, Raptors. And thats why hes bigger bust that Araujo, Aroujo was trash but he was off the team in 2 years, Bargnani tanked teamsfor YEARS, fooling everyone that he will figure it out because he moved fluidly, man is one of the worst 7 foot defenders and rebounders of all times, and I swear I am so sick of ignorant fools who keep bumping this man in these threads like he was ever somewhat good and just bad because of the circumstances. BArgnani was and would be one of the worst players in the league.

We already know what Bargnani would be in today’s league: his name is Lauri Markannen.

Bargnani was drafted in a time when everybody was clamoring for the “next Dirk”. If you were a 7 foot Euro that could walk and chew then GMs were tripping over themselves to get you.

Nikoloz Tskishvili
Darko Milicic
Andrea Bargnani

All top 5 picks within a 4 year stretch.

If he were in the right situation, he could settle for being a decent role player instead of the #1 pick and expected to be a superstar. There’s also zero chance he’d be drafted #1 today, since shooting bigs grow on trees nowadays. There was nothing else spectacular about his game, and his shooting wasn’t even all that great anyway.

trueballer7 · Post #16 » by **trueballer7** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:52 pm

All of them.

Post #17 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:13 pm

draftnightsuit wrote:
oldncreaky wrote:Mark Price

In the 80's and 90's, hand checking was a huge thing. Put Mark in an era where he can get where he wants without being mugged and that sweet shot of his would shine

Mark Price would not be an NBA player in today’s league.

Ya a 4x All NBA player who was a sharpshooter wouldnt even make the league in today's game...

jayu70 · Post #18 » by **jayu70** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:16 pm

Sam Perkins The Big Smooth.

jpengland · Post #19 » by **jpengland** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:16 pm

OdomFan wrote:Some roleplayers/borderline allstars would be utilized better too imo. Guys like

Tim Legler
Tracy Murray
Allen Houston
Sam Perkins
Eddie House
Judd Buchler
Detlef Schrempf
Charlie Ward
Damon Jones
Dale Ellis
Dennis Scott
Mookie Baylock
Dell Curry
Hersey Hawkins
Rashard Lewis
Dan Majerle
Mike Bibby
John Starks
Mark Price
Byron Scott
Michael Redd
Antonie Walker
Morris Petterson
Tim Thomas
Mike Miller
Michael Finley
Cutino Mobley

Lol. Antoine Walker

Guy wouldn't see the court.

SA37 · Post #20 » by **SA37** » Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:16 pm