Sixerscan wrote:Rapcity_11 wrote:Sixerscan wrote:I don't really get where the Raptors got Lowry's valuation that they were apparently asking for. Look at what they gave up for Gasol two years prior. Other teams don't care about Lowry's place in Raptors history any more than the Raptors cared about Gasol's place in Grizzlies history.
It's hard to rebuild when you keep losing good players for nothing the way the Raptors have in recent years. If they don't salvage something out of a Lowry S+T that's 5 of the top 7 guys from their title team they didn't get any value for. Other guys were out of their control, but that makes getting value in the situations you do have control even more important, and I think the Raptors overplayed their hand here.
They got a freaking title out of it. But I guess they should have traded Kawhi/Green during 2019 to ensure they wouldn't walk for nothing?
You misunderstood my last sentence. Obviously they had no control over Kawhi and so on, which makes getting something for Lowry even more important. Once he walks there are no tradeable assets on your roster that aren't already part of your core going forward, which is what teams generally use to jump start rebuilds. The Grizzlies for example are in a better spot right now because they chose to get something for Gasol and Conley, obviously the Celtics are an extreme example with Pierce and Garnett, we could go on...
But the question is what was the offer for Lowry? Any of the offers that were rumoured were all garbage players that did nothing and would have done nothing for the squad.
KCP and Schroeder?
Olynyk and Dennis Robinson (FA)?
Green and Mike Scott?
I agree that Thybulle, Maxey and 2 1sts was too large of an ask.
But there is also an organizational reputation that has to be considered here. You show that you're willing to buckle and deal Lowry for nothing, then that marks you as a team that will eventually cave. Raptors aren't just going to give away a top 30ish player for nothing...