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GrindCityHustle wrote:They won a title after a short 4 year rebuild and retirement of Kobe(RIP).

Liam_Gallagher wrote:Pelinka still had to make some risky deals before LeBron even signed there. For example, in order to unload Mosgov (previous ownership) he had to cut Russell lose. Also had to trade Clarkson and Nance for expirings (to Cleveland, ironically) in order to make more cap room.

People act like LeBron fell into their lap, but they traded a lot of young, good pieces in order to potentially land LeBron and Davis.

Oh, and I thought the Pelicans ripped the Lakers off? Funny how the goal posts change.

darkse1d wrote:bubble champion.

GrindCityHustle wrote:They won a title after a short 4 year rebuild and retirement of Kobe(RIP). To me that is a successful franchise. Now people hate on them because of injuries and lack of motivation? Have we watched the Last Dance propoganda koolaid too much?

Do people realize how hard it is to get a title much less be a dynasty? My Grizz will prob never get one along with alot of other franchises. The Raps fanbase waited since 1995 and the days of Oliver Miller for theirs. The Mavs are a small market that managed to get one after years of disappointment and heartache. It might be 5-10 years before they get a title out of Luka and the Raps might not see another one again for 20 years.

I just think the days of the three peat are over with. In the 60's you were playing with insurance salesmen, in the 00's it was street ANd1 baller types. Now we got guys built like Giannis who are the future prototype of an NBA player. Alot has changed and its no longer the same game anymore. Everyone firmly realizes how important load management is now so why ruin a career over it?

TLDR- If you won a title the season before then you are a successfully ran NBA franchise in my book and get a pass. Winning 6 in a short span just means there was a severe lack of competition these days. Now its anyone's game each and every year so if you take a year off for rest fans shouldn't get up and arms about it. This includes Golden State. We got to change our thinking at some point or we just become toxic and stop enjoying the evolution of the game. The competition is flat out better.

/rant gold sticker

Raps in 4 wrote:

Liam_Gallagher wrote:Pelinka still had to make some risky deals before LeBron even signed there. For example, in order to unload Mosgov (previous ownership) he had to cut Russell lose. Also had to trade Clarkson and Nance for expirings (to Cleveland, ironically) in order to make more cap room.

People act like LeBron fell into their lap, but they traded a lot of young, good pieces in order to potentially land LeBron and Davis.

Oh, and I thought the Pelicans ripped the Lakers off? Funny how the goal posts change.

Risky? How many other teams was Lebron willing to sign with?

Jadoogar wrote:

manchambo wrote:I don’t know why we have to continue to have this conversation over and over, but since you asked the question: I hate the Lakers because their “rebuild” required virtually no effort or skill. It simply required them accepting AD and Lebron’s desire to go there.

Attractive cities don't need to rebuild. Sooner or later a star will want to go there. It's why the Nets and Clippers had no problems giving away all their picks.

Small markets have to grow their own food. Big markets just go to the grocery store and pick what they want.

BoatsNZones wrote:

Jadoogar wrote:

manchambo wrote:I don’t know why we have to continue to have this conversation over and over, but since you asked the question: I hate the Lakers because their “rebuild” required virtually no effort or skill. It simply required them accepting AD and Lebron’s desire to go there.

Attractive cities don't need to rebuild. Sooner or later a star will want to go there. It's why the Nets and Clippers had no problems giving away all their picks.

Small markets have to grow their own food. Big markets just go to the grocery store and pick what they want.

To be fair, LA is effectively an overgrown dump at this point. But if you’re rich enough I suppose there’s still plenty of appeal to the city.

BoatsNZones wrote:

Jadoogar wrote:

manchambo wrote:I don’t know why we have to continue to have this conversation over and over, but since you asked the question: I hate the Lakers because their “rebuild” required virtually no effort or skill. It simply required them accepting AD and Lebron’s desire to go there.

Attractive cities don't need to rebuild. Sooner or later a star will want to go there. It's why the Nets and Clippers had no problems giving away all their picks.

Small markets have to grow their own food. Big markets just go to the grocery store and pick what they want.

To be fair, LA is effectively an overgrown dump at this point. But if you’re rich enough I suppose there’s still plenty of appeal to the city.

KyRo23 wrote:

bradybunch wrote:Is this your way of keeping them the center of attention?

I don't think a lot people give a damn about the Fakers.

You’d think but yesterday at one point there were 12 Lakers/LeBron posts on the front page of this very forum. Use that info as you will.

BoatsNZones wrote:

Jadoogar wrote:

manchambo wrote:I don’t know why we have to continue to have this conversation over and over, but since you asked the question: I hate the Lakers because their “rebuild” required virtually no effort or skill. It simply required them accepting AD and Lebron’s desire to go there.

Attractive cities don't need to rebuild. Sooner or later a star will want to go there. It's why the Nets and Clippers had no problems giving away all their picks.

Small markets have to grow their own food. Big markets just go to the grocery store and pick what they want.

To be fair, LA is effectively an overgrown dump at this point. But if you’re rich enough I suppose there’s still plenty of appeal to the city.

DoctorX wrote:

BoatsNZones wrote:

Jadoogar wrote:
Attractive cities don't need to rebuild. Sooner or later a star will want to go there. It's why the Nets and Clippers had no problems giving away all their picks.

Small markets have to grow their own food. Big markets just go to the grocery store and pick what they want.

To be fair, LA is effectively an overgrown dump at this point. But if you’re rich enough I suppose there’s still plenty of appeal to the city.

It's a dump for the average person but if you are rich it's probably the best place to live in the US for a young person which these athletes are.

Marrrcuss wrote:

DoctorX wrote:

BoatsNZones wrote:
To be fair, LA is effectively an overgrown dump at this point. But if you’re rich enough I suppose there’s still plenty of appeal to the city.

It's a dump for the average person but if you are rich it's probably the best place to live in the US for a young person which these athletes are.

Truth. Going to see the walk of fame requires a concealed permit in some spots. Lets hope no one is asleep on the star you wanna share to social media.

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:1) I'm from Boston
2) I cannot stand LeBron and his super teams.

druggas wrote:

Raps in 4 wrote:

GrindCityHustle wrote:They won a title after a short 4 year rebuild and retirement of Kobe(RIP). To me that is a successful franchise.

They were only able to pull that off due to their location. Lebron signed there so he can film Space Jam 2 while AD demanded a trade there because he's obsessed with the "LA lifestyle".

If they weren't located in LA, they'd still be developing their young core like 95% of other teams have to.

Clippers say otherwise.