Mr B wrote:
matt6715 wrote:Donnie Nelson needs to go before Carlisle. This is a GM/roster issue, not a coaching issue
Ive defended both Rick and Donnie but I’m starting to lean to the side that believe Donnie needs to go. Who does a Cuban replace him with though?
Carlisle isn’t and shouldn’t go anywhere. Cuban also already said his job is safe.
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It's really depressing when you think about how much of a pathetic roster that Carlisle had to work with. Pop/Riley/Jackson would look just as bad trying to make something with a poorly assembled roster. If anything, the Mavs haven't learned squat from their blatant mishandling of Dirk. If they hadn't won the title, Dirk most likely leaves and goes elsewhere. Their approach of trying to go for a home run FA signing only to end up with a bunch of duds has been infuriating to say the least. Here's some of the major blunders they've accrued pre Luka and current timeline:
-Draft Dennis Smith Jr. He looked good at the time, but Donovan Mitchell and Bam Adebayo ended up becoming major beasts. I'll give him a pass as nobody thought those 2 would become that good.
-Failure to move Nerlens Noel for value. Noel's stupidity of rejecting a 4/70M deal and taking the qualifying offer saved Donnie Nelson from himself. He should've moved Noel and cut his losses. If you were able to get a 2nd for him, should've taken it.
-Not moving Barnes. Him staying caused the Mavs to win a bunch of meaningless games that eventually caused them to slide in the draft lotto and be forced to give up future assets to get Luka.
-Got the franchise centrepiece who came way better than advertised, but was forced to part with a lightly pro. 1st.
-Ended up with a crap ton of cap space only to blow it on a 1/23M deal for Deandre Jordan who infamously rejected you prior when the Clippers locked him up in his house to keep Cuban away from him. Wasted cap space that could've been used to take on bad contracts in exchange for picks.
-What they could've done with that cap space instead was help OKC get out of Melo's deal as the Thunder were done with him being a liability who refused to come off the bench. Dallas could've flipped Harrison Barnes to OKC for Melo, Kyle Singler and a pro. 1st then they could've flipped Wesley Matthews expiring deal to Atlanta for Dennis Schroeder, their 1st returned and a future 2nd. Dennis got into legal trouble off the court and the Hawks wanted out of his salary to clear the way for Trae Young. This was a major opportunity missed by Nelson as he could've pulled a Hinkie. OKC with Barnes, Grant, George, Russ and Adams would've been better and Presti knew that if it didn't work he wasn't losing much and wouldn't be saddled with a long-term deal.
-Ultimately sold Barnes for pennies on the dollar(Justin Jackson, Zach Randolph). Could've flipped Randolph to another team looking for cap relief and get more picks. Mavs win a bunch of games with Jordan/Barnes and ultimately lose their 1st.
-Traded for KP. Ultimately Tim Hardaway Jr. ended up being way better than advertised while KP's attitude problems became worse in Dallas than they were in NY. Hindsight is 20/20, but should've only offered 1 pro. 1st instead of 2 as the Mavs were practically giving the Knicks cap relief in order to lure FA.
-Gives up 2 2nds for Delon Wright. He flops hard and proceeds to give up 2 more 2nds to OKC to get out of Wright's deal along with Justin Jackson in exchange for James Johnson who is then traded with Wes Iwundu and another 2nd to NO for Redick and Melli who aren't rotation players and suck
-Traded Seth Curry who was on a good deal to Philly for Josh Richardson and the 36th pick. It wasn't a bad deal at the time as they wanted to open up cap space and hoped that J-Rich would rebound from a rough year in Philly, but it didn't work out.
-All their picks were sent to the g-league in the 2020 draft as they were bigger projects than expected. Bad look when you have a generational superstar in the making. Chose Josh Green over Seddiq Bey who looked good at the 3 spot. The C's were looking to give away their 30th pick and gave it up for 2 2nds in 24+25 from Memphis. Should've done that deal if your Dallas in order to get 4 years of team control in Desmond Bane. Then they should've drafted Vic Krejci who was a Euro pg at 6'7 that could've helped and grow with the core as the team has no proper ball handlers.
-They have no picks in this year's draft. Barring any unforeseen circumstances, this is gonna be rough as Hardaway Jr. is a FA and Brunson is up for a new deal.
Donnie Nelson could've used the cap space to eat bad salaries during Luka's entry level deal while complimenting his franchise players with young guys on entry level deals to grow with him. It would've absorbed the failure of the KP signing thanks to Cuban's Euro fetish being on high display. If he had played his cards right he could've had a lineup of something like this:
I think the Luka experiment will go the way of the 1st stint LBJ Cavs era. Hope I'm wrong but unless those kids they took in the 2020 draft amount into something it ain't gonna be pretty.