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Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:04 am
by ImmortalD24
Had a few debates regarding this.. wonder if anything changed.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:06 am
by maxwellcu
Timing.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:07 am
by ken6199
Tonight it's Giannis.

But starting tomorrow when I am sober I lean towards Jokic.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:07 am
by Darthlukey
Both require a team to be built around them, with Giannis its offensively (though less than we previously thought) and with Jokic its defensively. Hard to really pick, but really even if you take into account recency bias, you gotta pick Giannis right cos he just got a ring averaging 35 and 13 in great numbers.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:07 am
by Sark
It's Giannis, because defense matters too.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:08 am
by CS707
Either. Both.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:08 am
by Patches Perry
Timing is a bit unfair, especially with the contrast of Ayton neutralizing Jokic, then looking like a child against Giannis.

Giannis is the answer, because to the victor go the spoils.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:08 am
by bballfan1three3
Giannis, he did just win the championship . Circumstances and all that Yada Yada Yada but jokic lost and giannis just won so you have to put the greek freak ahead. Can't even compare so for now just go with the guy who just put up 50

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:08 am
by Jazztop
The two people who said Jokic - shame.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:08 am
by Bruin
Way to ask this when you know all the recency bias will cause the results to skew one way

Ask again next postseason when Denver and Bucks are both healthy and we’ll see

Love both of them though. Very likable superstars

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:09 am
by maxwellcu
Timing.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:10 am
by JohnPferdelack
Giannis
Reason: A few minutes ago he showed that he can win a title.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:11 am
by gmoney411
bballfan1three3 wrote:Giannis, he did just win the championship . Circumstances and all that Yada Yada Yada but jokic lost and giannis just won so you have to put the greek freak ahead. Can't even compare so for now just go with the guy who just put up 50


You always gotta compare the circumstances. Jokic lost his best teammate, Giannis got very fortunate with stars on other teams going down, and Giannis's team was able to close out a series without him. But you can't ignore that Giannis just had one of the most dominant close out games in NBA Finals history.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:16 am
by ken6199
Jazztop wrote:The two people who said Jokic - shame.


Nothing to be ashamed of for picking the guy who won the MVP a month ago. Some people have short memories, some people don't.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:17 am
by Lexluthor
Jokic has to be one of the worst MVP of all time . Your team is going nowhere if he is your best player

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:20 am
by Mrakar
Lexluthor wrote:Jokic has to be one of the worst MVP of all time . Your team is going nowhere if he is your best player

Maybe your team is going nowhere if your starting backcourt is Campazzo- Rivers...

Holiday
Middleton
Tucker
Portis
Jokic

That team would have good chance of geting out of west this year and maybe winning it all.

That all said im stil not sure, probably leaning towards Giannis bcs of recency bias but that can change tomorrow or in a month..

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:23 am
by Hobo4President
Lexluthor wrote:Jokic has to be one of the worst MVP of all time . Your team is going nowhere if he is your best player


Worst MVP in what way? Least talented? Least deserving? I don't agree with either but they make a huge difference depending on which one you mean.

Least deserving is a definite no, dude was an absolute monster in the regular season.

Least talented is also a no, I mean, he's rated lower on the all-time list than pretty much every MVP winner of the last 20 years but that's normal for someone the year they win their first MVP.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:27 am
by Infinite Llamas
Talk about an unfair question asked moments after a Finals game.

Bucks lose Middleton to an ACL tear and no way is this questioned being asked. Context is critically important.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:30 am
by Big J
Infinite Llamas wrote:Talk about an unfair question asked moments after a Finals game.

Bucks lose Middleton to an ACL tear and no way is this questioned being asked. Context is critically important.


I don’t think it would have mattered. Giannis was on a mission this year and wasn’t going to let his team lose no matter what happened.

Re: Giannis or Jokic | Who would you build a team around?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 4:31 am
by Harry Garris
Jokic is really unpopular on this site and Giannis just won his first title so it isn't an objective poll