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Better Prospect:


Chet Holmgren, 19 years old, 7 ft 1 tall with 7 ft 6 wingspan, 2022 NBA Draft Class.

Stats at 2021 FIBA U19 World Championships: 11.9 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 3.3 APG, 62.0 FG%, 53.8 3P%, 66.7 FT%

Victor Wembanyama, 17 years old, 7 ft 3 tall with 7 ft 8 wingspan, eligible for 2023 NBA Draft Class.

Stats at 2021 FIBA U19 World Championships: 14.0 PPG, 7.4 RPG, 1.4 APG, 45.8 FG%, 18.2% 3P%, 78.3 FT%

Easily Wembanyama to me. But I also think Chet is kinda overrated and prefer Paolo Banchero, but we'll see.

holmgren because i can't pronounce the other guy's name

Victor is at a dangerous height threshold for me. Chet is fine we have comparisons there.

Victor is the better basketball player but it has to be taken with warning because of the matching height distribution.

I prefer Banch to Chet as well currently just have to see Chet in College before the distinction is made.

KD was a monster in College. And Dirk is Dirk.

Dirk and KD are ahead of Chet age for age but Chet has the MVP potential ceiling if everything fills out imo. It’s the size thing even though KD was skinny it was more wirey strong then Chet’s is and Dirk was fine (got that Euro bulk lol).

Neither. Give me a wing who won’t get put on an island in the playoffs instead of a position locked dinosaur.

Lalouie wrote:holmgren because i can't pronounce the other guy's name

You pronounce it the way that it's written to be honest. Like the word victory, but then you remove the "ee" sound at the end. Victor.

Hope that helps.

Victor is the better prospect by virtue of arguably being better already despite being 20-months younger. The issue with him though is that he is at a height that doesn't have much long-term success in the NBA in terms of injuries.

Both guys need to fill-out. Both are incredibly skinny and so are obviously work-in-progress. There ability to put on weight, adding strength, and avoiding injury will go a long way to determining how successful they are in the NBA.

Banchero

Yama looks absurd right now, might be the best shot blocking prospect we've ever seen

why not ask this on the draft board tho?

Victor is the best prospect of all non NBA players currently IMO. Health is the concern, but it’s an unfair one until he exhibits health problems.

NO-KG-AI wrote:Victor is the best prospect of all non NBA players currently IMO. Health is the concern, but it’s an unfair one until he exhibits health problems.

It might be but it’s very valid. I too have Victor as by far the best prospect head and shoulders above the rest figuratively and objectively. But others have peer comparisons by eras as a gauge.

I mean there’s Porzingis. Now of course Victor is more talented age for age but this is what people are getting at here.

7”3” or thereabouts is a dangerous height. Many many risks involved imo

Victor Wembanyama being still only 17 he can still grow another inch or so easily.

DCasey91 wrote:.
Dirk and KD are ahead of Chet age for age but Chet has the MVP potential ceiling if everything fills out imo. It’s the size thing even though KD was skinny it was more wirey strong then Chet’s is and Dirk was fine (got that Euro bulk lol).

KD couldn't press 185 lbs on the bench, he was a weak skinny guy. He may be wiry strong now, but not then.

DCasey91 wrote:

NO-KG-AI wrote:Victor is the best prospect of all non NBA players currently IMO. Health is the concern, but it’s an unfair one until he exhibits health problems.

It might be but it’s very valid. I too have Victor as by far the best prospect head and shoulders above the rest figuratively and objectively. But others have peer comparisons by eras as a gauge.

I mean there’s Porzingis. Now of course Victor is more talented age for age but this is what people are getting at here.

7”3” or thereabouts is a dangerous height. Many many risks involved imo

Yea, that and the thin frame. He's skinny and also doesn't look like he'll add a whole ton of weight.

That said, he's an otherworldly rim protector, and he looks like he has the mobility to switch and guard pick and rolls like a guy much smaller. His shooting and handling/passing is outstanding for his age, much less at that size. He's a lot taller, longer, and more athletically gifted than Chet is, IMO.

Victor outplayed chet in their matchup a couple days ago

RiRuHoops wrote:

DCasey91 wrote:.
Dirk and KD are ahead of Chet age for age but Chet has the MVP potential ceiling if everything fills out imo. It’s the size thing even though KD was skinny it was more wirey strong then Chet’s is and Dirk was fine (got that Euro bulk lol).

KD couldn't press 185 lbs on the bench, he was a weak skinny guy. He may be wiry strong now, but not then.

Bench press is bench press not sports.

Core and balance >>>> big biceps.

I cant tell, chets wayy ahead offensively.

DCasey91 wrote:

RiRuHoops wrote:

DCasey91 wrote:.
Dirk and KD are ahead of Chet age for age but Chet has the MVP potential ceiling if everything fills out imo. It’s the size thing even though KD was skinny it was more wirey strong then Chet’s is and Dirk was fine (got that Euro bulk lol).

KD couldn't press 185 lbs on the bench, he was a weak skinny guy. He may be wiry strong now, but not then.

Bench press is bench press not sports.

Core and balance >>>> big biceps.

bench press isn't big biceps, bro. It's upper body strength. Very few NBA prospects can't pressed 185 at least once.

DCasey91 wrote:

RiRuHoops wrote:

DCasey91 wrote:.
Dirk and KD are ahead of Chet age for age but Chet has the MVP potential ceiling if everything fills out imo. It’s the size thing even though KD was skinny it was more wirey strong then Chet’s is and Dirk was fine (got that Euro bulk lol).

KD couldn't press 185 lbs on the bench, he was a weak skinny guy. He may be wiry strong now, but not then.

Bench press is bench press not sports.

Core and balance >>>> big biceps.

Have you really never done a bench press in your life? The biceps are not really involved...